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Re: Question about self-enquiry
« Reply #30 on: February 22, 2010, 03:01:19 AM »
Glad you found some humor.

Step out of the ashram gates and you will run into many preaching this as gurus. The fee of course must be paid to them, not to the one consciousness. ;D




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Re: Question about self-enquiry
« Reply #31 on: February 22, 2010, 10:43:34 AM »
Gurus are aplenty outside the Asramam gates.  But most of them
are like fake CDs, which have attractive covers and pirated books
which contain a nice wrapper but a thousand printing mistakes inside.

Arunachala Siva.

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Re: Question about self-enquiry
« Reply #32 on: February 22, 2010, 03:53:46 PM »
Subramanian, I would like to get an answer from you to my question. Can thinking about reality or teachings be a helpful method in the path ot Self-Realization? Didn't Bhagavan say to get rid of all thinking?

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« Reply #33 on: February 23, 2010, 10:19:50 AM »
Dear Japo,

Bhagavan Ramana did not read anything, excepting Periya Puranam,
a little of Bible as a school lesson and a few songs of Tayumanavar.
His was a unique example, where Brahmanhood was attained without
knowing the word Brahman.  But at the same time, He did not want
to oversimplify the matter for all.  He said in Who am I?  - Since all
books say that mano-nigraha, controlling of mind or killing of thoughts
as the final Truth, one should not read books to an unlimited extent.
He thus permitted reading to some extent.  I have started this process
of unlearning.  I no more read all sorts of books.  JK, UGK, Echkart
Tolle and others have gone to the attic in my flat.  I confine myself
prayers for about two hours, mostly Tamil prayer songs and to the
daily newspaper and those of Sankara and Bhagavan. Even this,
I am sure would stop one day, and I shall remain Summa.
 
Again, He said that abiding in thoughtlessness would take one to
attainment.  But He knew that for everyone, this is not possible.
Hence, He said - Reduce the thoughts.  Observe the trice second,
between two thoughts.  Take one mantra or a word, to quell the
other thoughts.  He said Siva, Siva to Muruganar, Annamalai Swami and to a unknown Harijan.  This one thought will quell the other thoughts.  He gave me Arunachala Siva.  This works very well in my case.  This is more sublime than the plethora of thoughts about the objective world.  This takes you, albeit temporarily, to the state of killing of the mind or if you want to use a different phrase, the state of thoughtlessness.

In a thoughtless state,  the Suddha Manas or Pure mind or the Self takes over the works in one's day to day life. 

Arunachala Siva.           

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Re: Question about self-enquiry
« Reply #34 on: February 23, 2010, 08:54:56 PM »
Japo, how can you think about reality? Try and tell me if you succeeded, if not... then it is your answer.


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Re: Question about self-enquiry
« Reply #35 on: February 24, 2010, 12:20:00 AM »
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Japo, how can you think about reality? Try and tell me if you succeeded, if not... then it is your answer.
I'm still trying to figure it out  :P


And thank you very much Subramanian  :)

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He gave me Arunachala Siva.  This works very well in my case.  
Wow, did you meet Sri Bhagavan?! Have you written about this meeting in the forum?
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Re: Question about self-enquiry
« Reply #36 on: February 24, 2010, 10:59:25 AM »
I have not seen Bhagavan in body, since I was born after He attained
Maha Nirvana.  Should one get mantra only when He comes with
body?  How did Walter Kiers work out his realization?  How
did Swami Ramanagiri work out his deliverance?  They were
guided in their own countries and for Swami Ramanagiri, He directed
him from Almora to Tiruvanmiyur, (near Chennai) and from there
to T'malai and He further asked him to go to a village near Madurai,
I think, it is Vadipatti.  His Samadhi is there in Vadipatti.

There are Westerners who came to T'malai after Maha Samadhi and
are still staying there.  E.g. Lucy Ma's daughter.

Arunachala Siva. 

       

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Re: Question about self-enquiry
« Reply #37 on: February 26, 2010, 11:07:30 AM »
The outside Guru pushes you inside.  The Guru inside is pulling you
back from within. 

Arunachala Siva.

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Re: Question about self-enquiry
« Reply #38 on: March 29, 2010, 12:17:34 AM »
Out of topic question, but I remeber Bhagavan once advising meditator to look at the tip of the nose. Why is this and how long should one concentrate on it?

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« Reply #39 on: March 29, 2010, 07:19:34 AM »
It is only for stilling the mind.  The eyes looking at the tip of the
nose cannot look at anything else. And there will be no thoughts.
Hence mind is said to be stilled.  It is not a Yoga practice.

Arunachala Siva. 

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Re: Question about self-enquiry
« Reply #40 on: May 29, 2010, 11:59:07 PM »
In the book 'Talks with Sri Ramana Maharshi Volume III', page 480, a person asks: "Am I to think “Who am I”?
And Sri Bhagavan replies: "You have known that the ‘I-thought’ springs forth. Hold the ‘Ithought’
and find its moola (source)".


How can we know whether the person asking meant to ask: "Am I to think: "Who am I?" or "Am I to think who am I?" (i.e verbally thinking about himself)? Does the original recording of this conversation still exist?