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SLakshmi

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Living naturally best form of discipline
« on: May 29, 2010, 04:51:37 PM »
Sri viswanatha swami's brother, who had just then been released from vellore prison [arrested for participating in the freedom movement] came to the ashram. His parents were very orthodox.At the dining hall he sat down with the non-brahmins. He was reminded by a few that he should go and sit only with the brahmins. He told them in a loud voice: ' There is non difference of caste and creed in the presence of bhagavan'. In his voice, one could discern an anticipation of approval from bhagavan.

quite surprisingly for him, bhagavan reacted differently! with a tinge of anger in his voice, he said "Oho! has he transcended all limitations so as to do as he pelased? will he eat at home seated along with non-brahmins? why this procalmation of equality only here? one should be normal and behave as one would at home. To live naturally is the best form of discipline."

- Kunju swamigal

[MP, 1987, July, 45-46]

Subramanian.R

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Re: Living naturally best form of discipline
« Reply #1 on: May 30, 2010, 10:24:15 AM »

Dear SLakshmi,

Yes.  Viswanatha Swami's brother's episode is quoted by many
authors.  It shows that 'to think I am Brahmin' and to think
'I have transcended the egotistic nature of being a Brahmin' -
both are manifestations of the ego.  Both are desires.  To
transcend both is essential.

Once there was a heated exchange of comments under David Godman's blog about Desiring the Self. Whether it is also a
desire.  There were many participants in these discussions.

Finally, David Godman gave the quote of Bhagavan Ramana,
which He had mentioned only once or twice, in His conversations.  "Desiring the Self is the only the desire that one can have."
All other desires are to be eschewed.

Arunachala Siva.     

SLakshmi

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Re: Living naturally best form of discipline
« Reply #2 on: May 30, 2010, 11:21:36 AM »
Thanks subramanian sir! This is a revelation! infact, even on the orkut forum we've had this discussion...and often the conclusion was never clear. This puts to rest all speculation on this topic! Even bhagavan ramana had only one attachment..and that was to the hill...to arunachala!