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Subramanian.R

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Re: Bhagavad & Ramana Gita
« Reply #120 on: May 26, 2010, 10:06:07 AM »

Dear soham3,

Give me this day, your daily question!  You did not give it for
about 2 or 3 days in between!

Both Ajanani (Ignorant) and Jnani (Realized) have to live in bodies.
Without body, how to live?  Even amoeba has to have a body. 

Ajnani dies.  Jnani 'leaves' the body as one leaves the porcelain
plate after a buffet dinner.  You cannot take the porcelain plate,
with you.  At sometime, the birth should end.

For Ajnani, the birth ends in death.  For Jnani, the birth ends when
the purpose of his coming down on the earth is over.

We cannot expect a Jnani just to stop his breathing and die.
There must be some 'reason' for his leaving the body.  It could
be chikengunya, cancer or swine-flu, or asthmatic choking.  He
does not care.  There must be some reason, that is all.  Then
you may ask how about the suffering and pain?  The suffering
and pain is for whom?  Jnani is not the body, in the first instant.
So if the body pains, it does not affect him.

Arunachala Siva.

         

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Re: Bhagavad & Ramana Gita
« Reply #121 on: May 26, 2010, 10:53:22 PM »
(1) Swami Ram Tirth died of being drowned.
(2) Swami Vivekananda died of sickness.
(3) Buddha died of pig meat.
(4) Jesus died of cross.
(5)  Arya Samaj founder Dayananda Saraswati died of being poisoned.
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Re: Bhagavad & Ramana Gita
« Reply #122 on: May 26, 2010, 11:08:23 PM »
(1) Mahatma Gandhi fell to bullet. Since then he has appeared in seances and denounced dogmas & religions.
(2) Pranic healing movement founder Choa Kok Sui died of pneunonia. Irony is that he himself died of a disease after healing millions of people of various ailments. 
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Re: Bhagavad & Ramana Gita
« Reply #123 on: May 27, 2010, 10:03:47 AM »

Dear soham3,

I do not know about Mahatma Gandhi and pranic healers.  But
Jnanis/avataras like Bhagavan Ramana, the Buddha, Christ and
others did not first of all, live in their bodies.  The ever abided in
the Self within.  The bodies had some pains due to diseases,
(the Buddha and Bhagavan Ramana), by others (Jesus Christ)
and various other reasons.  It does not matter.  They also moaned
during their sickness or punishment.  But it is their bodies that
pained and they moaned.  But Atma is ever shining within.  Jesus
asked the Father to forgive the punishers.  Bhagavan Ramana raised
from His bed a little, and shed tears of bliss when Arunachala Siva
song was sung by the devotees. In fact Mahatma Gandhi also said
Ram, Ram.... during the bullet injury.  He did not cry, Oh, Oh, No....

Arunachala Siva.   

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Re: Bhagavad & Ramana Gita
« Reply #124 on: May 28, 2010, 12:51:45 AM »
In sharp contrast are Nanak & Kabir. Their disciples squabbled over their dead bodies. One group wanting burial and another cremation. Next day morning there were flowers where lay corpses previous night.
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Re: Bhagavad & Ramana Gita
« Reply #125 on: May 28, 2010, 10:44:32 AM »

Dear soham3,

Yes. I agree with you.  Such ultimate miracles were needed for
the quelling of the squabbles.

There was one Chidambaram Ramalinga Swami near Chidambaram.
During his late 40s, he told the disciples to leave in a hall with
all doors closed.  He said that he would stay there for 48 days
and then they could open the door.  The devotees and disciples
guessed that he might be leaving his body and so they made
gorgeous preparations for burial and samadhi.  On the 49th
morning, they opened the door and they did not find anything.
The Jnani had disappeared into thin air!

In Tiruvannamalai Hill, one Virupaksha Siddha left his body
and there was only a heap of holy ashes on that place, where
he had left the body.  Even today Virupaksha Cave, where Bhagavan
Ramana stayed for 17 years, has got heaps of holy ashes.  Bhagavan Ramana made a lingam out of it!

Arunachala Siva.