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29th May, 1938

Talk 495.


A Cochin Brahmin, Professor in the Ernakulam College, had an interesting conversation with Sri Bhagavan. Sri Bhagavan advised surrender to God.

The visitor gave a glimpse of an ICS Officer. The gentleman while a student was an atheist or an agnostic. He is very pious now and the change has surprised everyone who had known him before.

In further conversation, the following points were noteworthy.

The visitor said: “One must become satiate with the fulfilment of desires before they are renounced.”

Sri Bhagavan smiled and cut in: “Fire might as well be put out by pouring spirit over the flames.(All laugh). The more the desires are fulfilled, the deeper grows the samskara. They must become weaker before they cease to assert themselves. That weakness is brought about by restraining oneself and not by losing oneself in desires.

D.: How can they be rendered weaker?

M.: By knowledge.You know that you are not the mind. The desires are in the mind. Such knowledge helps one to control them.


D.: But they are not controlled in our practical lives.

M.: Every time you attempt satisfaction of a desire the knowledge comes that it is better to desist. Repeated reminders of this kind will in due course weaken the desires. What is your true nature? How can you ever forget it? Waking, dream and sleep are mere phases of the mind. They are not of the Self. You are the witness of these states. Your true nature is found in sleep.

D.: How can I do my duties without attachment? There is my wife,there are my children. I must do my duty towards them. Affection is necessary. Am I right?

M.: How do you do your work in the College?

D.: (laughing) For wages.

M.: Not because you are attached, simply as doing your duty.

D.: But my pupils expect me to love them.


M.: “Detachment in the interior and attachment in appearance,” says Yoga Vasishta.

D.: I have my professional work and yet I want to be in perpetual dhyana. Will they conflict with each other?

M.: There will be no conflict. As you practise both and develop your powers you will be able to attend to both.You will begin to look on business as a dream. Says the Bhagavad Gita: “That which is the night of all beings, for the disciplined man is the time of waking; when other beings are waking, then is it night for the sage who seeth.” (11.69.)

12th April, 1935

Talk 46.


Mr. Ekanatha Rao: How can anyone reconcile such activity with the wage-earning which is a necessity for worldly people?

M.: Actions form no bondage. Bondage is only the false notion.“I am the doer.” Leave off such thoughts and let the body and senses play their role, unimpeded by your interference.


Sources:

1) Talks With Ramana Maharshi Book
2) Arunachala's Ramana Volume III Book

Subramanian.R

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Re: Ramana Maharshi Suggests To Have Detachment In The Interior
« Reply #1 on: May 24, 2010, 09:31:52 AM »

Dear prasanth,

There is no end to desires, if one tries to satiate them.  At one
point, one should have discrimination to avoid them.  Bhagavan
Ramana has said that simple desires like eating a mango, can
be fulfilled, of some one gives opportunity to fulfill that desire
i.e brings mango to your house or the Hall. 

One evening, it was decided that there would be Kanji (liquid
porridge, the usual diet of Keralites) and Aviyal, a mixed vegetable
preprations, with coconut oil and curds (again this is a Keralite
preparation.), in the next morning.  All devotees were eager for
that morning.  Preparations were in full swing right from 4 am.
Several vegetables were cut and cooked.  Coconut oil and curds
were made ready for mixing!  The hot hot Kanji was being made
ready in another fire.  Everyone assembled in time at 7 am.
Bhagavan Ramana relished that Kanji and Aviyal so much, that
normally He would not ask for second helping of any food item,
He asked for a second helping and relished it with smile.  Finally
He said: Let us skip coffee today! 

He followed His own prescription of avoiding coffee on that morning.  But many others had cups of coffee too!

Arunachala Siva.         

SLakshmi

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Re: Ramana Maharshi Suggests To Have Detachment In The Interior
« Reply #2 on: May 24, 2010, 09:57:26 AM »
I am a hopless foodie. I am a real pakki when it comes to north-indian street food, or anything thats made at home. I eat when i am out with friends. I binge when i am at home watching and i eat when i am in office. Health-wise i am not over-weight. But i cant desist eating! I just pray to sri bhagavan that all the street-food vendors just do their business away from my sight! especially those selling gol-gappas!

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Re: Ramana Maharshi Suggests To Have Detachment In The Interior
« Reply #3 on: May 24, 2010, 10:04:54 AM »

Dear SLakshmi,

Do not worry.  Eat as you wish but only vegetarian stuff.  The
fact that you are not over-weight shows that you are digesting
it well and you are okay.  If at all, if you consider this as a
morbid desire, it will go on its own.  Do not keep it as an
obsession either to eat more or deliberately avoid and under eat

I used to take a lot of cups of coffee.  So is my wife.  She can
live only with coffee in life.  One day, my sister reminded that
our father was a diabetic and we should avoid sugar.  From that
day, I stopped taking coffee with sugar.  I have been taking
sugarless coffee (no saccharin and other substitutes), and the
number of cups came down to four per day.  Even this, is high,
considering my mother's time, when she served only two cups of
coffee everyday to children.  I avoid all fruits excepting guava
and one plantain.  Such things become possible at some point of
time.

In Asramam, of course, I take sugared coffee in the morning and tea in the evening.

I go for pre-prandial and post prandial sugar check up once in a
while.  These are normal.

Arunachala Siva. 
   

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Re: Ramana Maharshi Suggests To Have Detachment In The Interior
« Reply #4 on: May 24, 2010, 11:05:58 AM »
Yes subramanian sir, my family is all vegetarian. Not even eggs we take.I guess slowly with age and maturity i will mellow and all this binge eating will subside!


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