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Ramana Maharshi About "Mukta Purusha"
« on: May 23, 2010, 10:31:00 AM »
10th June, 1938

Talk 498.


Ramana Maharshi:


People often say that a mukta purusha should go out and preach his message to the people. They argue, how can anyone be a mukta so long as there is misery by his side? True. But who is a mukta? Does he see misery beside him? They want to determine the state of a mukta without themselves realising the state. From the standpoint of the mukta their contention amounts to this: a man dreams a dream in which he finds several persons. On waking up, he asks, “Have the dream individuals also wakened?” It is ridiculous.

Again, a good man says, “It does not matter even if I do not get mukti.Or let me be the last man to get it so that I shall help all others to be muktas before I am one.” It is all very good. Imagine a dreamer saying, “May all these wake up before I do”. The dreamer is no more absurd than the amiable(Disposed to please) philosopher aforesaid.

Sources:

1) Talks With Ramana Maharshi Book
2) Arunachala's Ramana Volume III Book

Subramanian.R

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Re: Ramana Maharshi About "Mukta Purusha"
« Reply #1 on: May 24, 2010, 09:57:00 AM »


Doing good to others alone shall not confer liberation.  These
virtuous acts are at best helpful for chitta-suddhi and pave way
for surrender or self enquiry to attain liberation. 

During Bhagavan Ramana's times, many freedom fighters and
sympathizers of Gandhian movement came to Him.  They were
telling Bhagavan Ramana about their deeds.  Bhagavan merely
said, it is good but see that you get your own Freedom first.

Similarly towards from social reformers, He said:  "Reform yourself
first and then try to reform others!"

Arunachala Siva.
     

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Re: Ramana Maharshi About "Mukta Purusha"
« Reply #2 on: May 24, 2010, 11:08:36 AM »
what exactly is chitta-shudhi? Is it being good to others? chitta-shuddi in the light of sri bhagavan's philosophy should be getting the mind away from the world and preparing it for self-enquiry and other sadhana. How can nuturing the world be chitta-shudhi? is the exact anti-thesis of sri bhagavan's teaching..

Please correct me...

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Re: Ramana Maharshi About "Mukta Purusha"
« Reply #3 on: May 24, 2010, 12:17:14 PM »

Dear SLakshmi,

Chitta-suddhi, is a state, where the mind has no miseries, no happiness, no pleasures, no pains, balanced and calm and eventually
become thoughtless. It is the perfect state of total non attachment.
No doership, no enjoyership, no hate, no likings.

This can also be defined in many other manners.

Arunachala Siva.

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Re: Ramana Maharshi About "Mukta Purusha"
« Reply #4 on: May 24, 2010, 01:15:54 PM »
Dear Subramanian,

yes, what actually world needs now is the transformation in consciousness and not in outer regulations.
We can change democracy to something else, we can change socialism to something else... etc. we can go on changing various types of rules, laws, types of commanding for billion years.
But what of it?  ;)
Catastrophic events of nature will follow soon, and it is because man refuses to wake up without being shaken up.