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ULLadu Narpadu - 110
« on: May 20, 2010, 04:47:46 PM »

Muruganar in his Padamalai, covers these aspects of destiny and
free will in some verses.  David Godman's translation is being followed
here.  And David has given the title Iswara and Destiny for the topic.

Verse 1007:  Iswara is responsible for the five-fold activities in the same way that the Sun is responsible for the activities of the world.

Verse 1009:  Other than through the Sakti connection, Iswara has no
direct relationship with the world. 

{Bhagavan Ramana also gives the same idea in Who am I?}

Verse 1030:  You should know that the veiling (tirodana) that makes the Jivas forget [the events of the past lives] is an act of supreme
compassion by Iswara towards them.

Verse 1031:  If these memories are not absent, Jivas will not attain "malaparipaka" [ a mature state in which impurities are ready for
destruction], and the lives of Jivas will get shattered and ruined]

Verse 398:  Although those who do not know consciousness find fault with things that happen in the world, all events that occur
do so in accordance with a unique divine ordinance.

Verse 399:  The truth of that unique ordinance -- which conducts all affairs while remaining neutral, without a trace of partiality -- cannot be known by Jivas who are caught up inside creation.

Verse 2769: True devotees are firmly convinced in their hearts that everything that occurs happen only for the best.

Muruganar says in the Genuine Guidelines for Seekers (Sadhakarku Uriya Sattana Chintanaigal - a short prose work):

Human beings, who possess insignificant power, do not even have the power to change their own minds, which are supposedly under their control.  This being so, trying to alter the events of the external world, which are under the strong control of the powerful Iswara, can be classified as ignorance.  Unless such efforts are aligned with what Iswara has already ORDAINED, [in which case, success is a coincidence, like a fruit falling off a tree, when a crow alights on a branch], they usually end in failure.  Such attempts lead only to disappointment. 

Verse 1867:  "Whatever is due to be experienced will not fail to come whether one desires or not," Padam says repeatedly.  {This is the Destiny aspect.}

Sri M. Sivaprakasam Pillai recorded one of Bhagavan's statements
on destiny, in Irangal {Submission}, one of his unpublished poems:

"We have somehow become embodied.  Whatever good and bad
has been ordained to come, it will certainly come.  It will not remain
without coming.  There is only one way to be free from suffering.
This is to turn the mind within," so said Bhagavan Ramana. {The
Power of the Presence, Part I}

Day by Day entry dated 1st June 1946 reads as under:

Question:  In the early stages would it not be a help to a man
to seek solitude and give up his outer duties in life?

Bhagavan:  Renunciation is always in the mind, not in going to
forests or solitary places or giving up one's duties.  The main thing
is to see that the mind does not turn outward but inward.  It does not really rest with a man, whether he goes to this place or that or whether he gives up his duties or not.  All that happens according to destiny.  All the activities that the body is to go through are determined when it first comes into existence.  It does not rest with you to accept or reject them.  The only freedom is to turn your mind inward and renounce activities there.....

If you want to go to fundamentals, you must inquire who you are and find out who it is who has freedom or destiny.  Who are you and why did you get this body that has these limitations?

Arunachala Siva.