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Few Lessons From Bhagavan Ramana's Life
« on: May 19, 2010, 01:02:01 PM »
K.R.K. Murthy writes in Arunachala's Ramana, Boundless Ocean of Grace, Volume 6:

1. Once there was a discussion about the foodstuffs such as onions, drumsticks, carrots etc., which orthodox people avoid.Bhagavan Ramana remarked that they may do good to the body but not to the mind. They may purify the blood and benefit the body but they rouse passions and are not helpful for the purification of the mind, chiddasuddhi.

2.Giving up certain fruits, nuts or other foodstuff dear to one,during the pilgrimages to holy places like Kasi, is one of the practices prevalent among the religious people. One day Bhagavan noticed a devotee avoiding a mango on this ground and commented that a better form of 'tyaga' - renunciation would be to accept whatever one happens to get and not to crave for which that is not available.

3. Once Bhagavan Ramana also told that one may avoid things that do not agree with one's constitution and take necessary quantities of suitable ones that do him good. But maintenance of body and health should not occupy much attention as it is not our chief pursuit in life.

4. Bhagavan never used to compromise with equality in serving meals.He never agreed to accept anything which is not equally shared by His fellow diners.He was satisfied only when He was served in the end, after everyone was served.Even under exceptional situations, He was not willing to take the food of superior quality unless it was distributed to all.

5. Bhagavan made people of different tongues in South India quite at home by speaking or writing in their respective languages.It requires a great effort to cross the narrow linguistic barriers and shed the unjustifable prejudices against other languages and appreciate good works in them. Only one who studies one or two languages in addition to his mother tongue and moves and lives with others has ample opportunities of broadening his outlook and also reaching others' hearts.The initial linguistic affinities do not last long and after all, people of the same mentality flock togetherm whatever their mother tonuge is.Bhagavan Ramana is particularly adored because He had taken a lot of pains to master several languages and write His works in the same for the benefit of devotees from various parts.His glorious example will continue to influence generations of devotees to put forth their best efforts in this direction and to come closer by understanding one another better.

Source: Arunachala's Ramana, Boundless Ocean of Grace, Volume 6


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Re: Few Lessons From Bhagavan Ramana's Life
« Reply #1 on: May 20, 2010, 12:18:38 PM »

Bhagavan Ramana used to tell humorously that the body itself
is a disease.  So too much of attention to the body should not
be given.  At the same time, the body has to be maintained without
any obstacles for Atma Bodha sadhana.  For that purpose, food
is necessary.  Regarding onions, Bhagavan Ramana never prohibited
it.  He prohibited only the garlic, which promotes sexual impulses.
Hence, He told the seekers to avoid onion and the non vegetarian
food.  As per science, onion also promotes sexual impulses.  But
Bhagavan Ramana did not prohibit it for Sadhana.  However, for
a self realized Jnani, nothing is a hindrance.  Bhagavan Ramana once
took even ganja, since it was given by a sadhu, as an offering.  He
took it, and but for the eyes becoming red, He had no other problem.  Unlike the bogus sadhus, He did not start prattling or
sleeping or go into a state of stupor.  He was all alive, with robust
awareness.

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« Reply #2 on: May 23, 2010, 02:01:18 PM »
What sort of foods would be ideal? Or what should be avoided the most, other than garlic?
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Re: Few Lessons From Bhagavan Ramana's Life
« Reply #3 on: May 23, 2010, 02:07:38 PM »

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« Reply #4 on: May 23, 2010, 05:05:55 PM »

Dear kde,

Bhagavan Ramana said only to avoid garlic and non-vegetarian
dishes including egg.  But he never compelled anyone not to
go outside and eat these, in restaurants etc., If one sticks to the
prohibitions, it is sufficient.  These items are never prepared insdie the Asramam.  But one cannot go behind everyone and watch.

If you take old Hindu scriptures, you will find a long list:

1. Onion.
2. Drumsticks
3. Garlic
4. Old cooked rice
5. Butter, but ghee is permitted.

and of course, non vegetarian items.  These are prohibited
for Brahmins even in everday life.  But not for others.  For
people who are doing some sadhana, like devotion, self enquiry
etc., these were recommended. 

Tobacco products were not there in ancient India.  But during
Bhagavan Ramana's time, tobacco had come into India.  Certain
devotees had tobacco and betel leaves and nuts, even inside the Asramam.  But Bhagavan Ramana never said anything against them.  Cigarettes and Beedies were used by the Westerners and
hard working coolies.  He also never mentioned anything about these items.  These were also not permitted inside the Asramam.
Ganja (cannabis) was in vogue even in ancient India.  But Bhagavan
Ramana prohibited it. Psychodelic drugs were not in vogue.
There were some sleeping tablets for people who suffered pain
and were not getting sleep.
 
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« Reply #5 on: May 23, 2010, 07:45:51 PM »
Thanks, I smoked cannabis and tobacco for a long time, but have stopped both now for around two years. Things seem to run their course, though I wished I'd had stopped sooner.

It's been a long time since eating meat.

Onions would be hard to give up as I like making curry's.  :)

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« Reply #6 on: May 24, 2010, 09:14:13 AM »

Dear kde,

I should say you have made a good progress.  Bhagavan Ramana
has said that Sattvic food helps one to increase Sattvic qualities.
Hence, the prescriptions.  Onions, no harm.  We also use onions,
in our vegetarian preparations. 

Arunachala Siva.
   

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« Reply #7 on: May 24, 2010, 09:50:42 AM »
Prasanthji,

 Your web-site is an excellent source for sri bhagavan's teachings and pictures. I wasnt sure until now if it was yours. I had visited just by chance and ever since has on my favorite list of web sites. I visit atleast once a day for its rare photos and teachings of sri bhagavan. Many Thanks!

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« Reply #8 on: May 24, 2010, 01:13:58 PM »
Thanks a lot Lakshmi Garu for your kind words.

All credit goes to guru Ramana Maharshi and his devotees who took pain collecting all teachings and printed in books.

My wife is slowly starting to translate articles in telugu and maintaining them in a telugu blog.

http://gururamanamaharshitelugu.blogspot.com/

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« Reply #9 on: May 24, 2010, 01:45:03 PM »
I have never seen the picture of Ramana sitting on the tiger skin before. In the link above.

Is it a Indian practice to have a great sage sit on the skin of a powerful animal?

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« Reply #10 on: May 25, 2010, 09:51:06 AM »

Dear prasanth,

It should be a tremendous effort and I congratulate you and your
wife.  I am however yet to see the blog.

Dear kde,

It was the practice of Yogis and Jnanis in the olden days to sit
on a tiger's skin or a deer's skin.  They did not go on this account
to kill the animals.  These were presented by devotees to the Gurus.
In case of Bhagavan Ramana too, it was given by some devotees.
More than any other Jnanis, Bhagavan Ramana would be last
person to seek this tiger's skin for the purpose of sitting on it.

Normally, sitting on these animals' skin is symbolic of conquering
animal instincts, rajas and tamas etc.,

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« Reply #11 on: May 25, 2010, 01:26:05 PM »
Thank you Subramanian.R, your answer makes sense. I had the idea Bhagavan did not look to happy to be sitting on that tiger skin.

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« Reply #12 on: May 25, 2010, 02:11:44 PM »

Dear kde,

There is two more stories about the tiger's skin of Bhagavan Ramana.

1. Once someone came to Bhagavan Ramana, when He was sitting alone in the Old Hall and asked for the tiger's skin to be given to him. Bhagavan Ramana stood up and allowed him to take the tiger's
skin.  The fellow quietly took it away and was about to leave the
Asramam.  Some devotee found him and pulled back the tiger's
skin, gave that fellow a nice thrash and sent him out of the Asramam premises.  Then he brought back the tiger's skin, spread it on the sofa and requested Bhagavan to sit on it.  Then he humbly
asked Bhagavan Ramana:  "Bhagavan!  How come he took away the
tiger's skin from you?  Why did you allow?"  Bhagavan Ramana
smiled and said:  "What is there?  Someone offered it and I took it.
Someone else wanted it and I gave it!"  Bhagavan Ramana was the
epitome on non attachment.

2. On another occasion, Major Chadwick, a humorous person by nature, told in hush hush voice to a devotee, who was having some distraction:  "Look!  Big Brother is watching you!"   Chadwick then
showed him the tiger's skin.  [The real humor is that Chinnaswami,
Sarvadhikari was a tough administrator.  He had just then entered
the Old Hall and was watching the devotees/visitors.  Chadwick
in fact, meant, Sarvadhikari, as the Tiger or Big Brother!].

Arunachala Siva.

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« Reply #13 on: May 27, 2010, 01:36:38 PM »
Thanks Subramanian.R, the first story made me laugh. But is a good lesson in non attachment.

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« Reply #14 on: May 28, 2010, 11:11:49 AM »

Dear kde,

That was the time, when tigers were killed and there were no
SPCA movement to protect the animals and rare creatures.  So
there were available such tiger's skin for a price. One Westerner
after having elaborate discussion with Bhagavan Ramana about
killing of animals and water-living crocodiles, finally asked Bhagavan
Ramana: "On what, are you sitting then?"

Bhagavan Ramana replied:  "I am sitting on the Truth."

(The certainty of death is the Truth.  Dinosaurs have come and gone and so are the many species.  Now, it is told, that tiger population is dwindling.)     

Arunachala Siva.