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Life-Death
« on: August 22, 2008, 04:59:39 PM »
If we experience life(self)before physical death,the idea of death will disappear in that very experience.

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Re: Life-Death
« Reply #1 on: August 22, 2008, 06:33:06 PM »
Dear Raju, Yes, the Self can be realized while being alive.  Such
people are Jivan Muktas. eg. Bhagavan.  Some others realize
during the last moments of death and then there is  the fall of the body.
They are Videha Muktas.  While Jivan muktas can give teaching
to the unillumined, the Videha muktas can do nothing of that sort.
That way, they are very 'selfish'.

Arunachala Siva. 

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« Reply #2 on: August 22, 2008, 09:10:01 PM »
If we experience life(self)before physical death,the idea of death will disappear in that very experience.

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EXACTLY SIR. THAT IS WHAT EVERYONE  SHOULD TRY FOR LEAVING THE RESULT.

SIVA SIVA
« Last Edit: August 22, 2008, 09:20:06 PM by SANKAR »
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Re: Life-Death
« Reply #3 on: August 22, 2008, 09:41:22 PM »
Dear sankar,
                 You have understood the message very well.Kindly sincerely try for that experience of life,you will be successful.
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« Reply #4 on: August 22, 2008, 09:46:27 PM »
Dear sankar,
                 You have understood the message very well.Kindly sincerely try for that experience of life,you will be successful.

THANK YOU SIR, I AM TRYING MY BEST. DIFFICULT BUT NO OTHER WAY. TO GET SOMETHING IS TO FORGET SOMETHING. AS NOTHING COMES WITHOUT EFFORT.

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Re: Life-Death
« Reply #5 on: August 23, 2008, 12:58:08 AM »
Dear Srkudai,

Yes!

Every time we say or think it is difficult we are talking from the ego. All the doing, trying, struggling, worrying, searching are all from the ego.

This is a big important part of surrender. 

It is the mind that brings these "difficulties" to save itself.

BE STILL!
Oh Arunachala, blazing fire of Jnana, in my heart I pray and think of Thee from afar, root out the ego, merging me in the Self.

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Re: Life-Death
« Reply #6 on: August 23, 2008, 09:53:54 AM »
Dear sankar,
                Thinking that experiencing the awareness is difficult is a mind game which creates it for it's survival.If we experince awareness as it is,mind will be annihilated so mind will try it's best to divert your attention from the awareness.But if you do self-enquiry with firm conviction that you are the self mind games will not divert your attention towards awareness and experiencing awareness is not at all difficult because we are that.
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Re: Life-Death
« Reply #7 on: August 23, 2008, 11:41:13 AM »
Dear Raju,  Kindly do not get into the deluge of words.  We are all,
as srkudai said, ever the Awareness.  But, what is obstructing is
the ego.  Bhagavan says, "Leave the mind, the Awareness shines."
See His words.  He did not say, "Awareness will appear', but said
'Awareness shines".  The Awareness is ever present,  as
Existence-Knowledge-Bliss.

Arunachala Siva.

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« Reply #8 on: August 23, 2008, 11:43:10 AM »
Dear Sankar,  I am telling you too.  Do not get into whirlpool
of words.  Sastra vasana will not take us anywhere.  Be still
and the Awareness shines.

Arunachala Siva.

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« Reply #9 on: August 23, 2008, 11:45:22 AM »
Dear non duel,  Mind or ego, as you have correctly said, is
necessary to know the Self.  It is like, the stick that stirs
the funeral pyre.  Who am I? (1902) will not leave us. It is
one book which contains all the answers.

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Re: Life-Death
« Reply #10 on: August 23, 2008, 05:30:27 PM »
Dear non duel,  Mind or ego, as you have correctly said, is
necessary to know the Self.  It is like, the stick that stirs
the funeral pyre.  Who am I? (1902) will not leave us. It is
one book which contains all the answers.

Arunachala Siva.   

Dear Subramanian-ji

Yes!.  But the stick as you pointed out has to be used to stir the funeral pyre (vichara) and not play in the sand (struggling, worrying, doing...)
Oh Arunachala, blazing fire of Jnana, in my heart I pray and think of Thee from afar, root out the ego, merging me in the Self.

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Re: Life-Death
« Reply #11 on: August 23, 2008, 05:59:59 PM »
Dear nonduel,
                  "who am i "stick is always directed selfwards.That is the main difference between "who am i"thought and other thoughts which are always directed
towards objects.
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« Reply #12 on: August 23, 2008, 06:06:21 PM »
Dear Raju,  Very much yes.  The Who am I?  is the stick is
pointing to the Self within.  This burns all the outgoing thoughts,
and in the Self Realization, it burns itself.

Arunachala Siva.

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« Reply #13 on: August 23, 2008, 08:27:08 PM »
Dear Srkudai,

Yes!

Every time we say or think it is difficult we are talking from the ego. All the doing, trying, struggling, worrying, searching are all from the ego.

This is a big important part of surrender. 

It is the mind that brings these "difficulties" to save itself.

BE STILL!

Dears,

Yes, Difficulty is for ego state only ; in egoless state only Bliss.
Unfortunately we have to move from ego to egoless via the ego route only, means the same way we have to retract backwards.

siva siva
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Re: Life-Death
« Reply #14 on: August 23, 2008, 08:40:54 PM »
Dear Sankar-ji,

Quote:
""Unfortunately we have to move from ego to egoless via the ego route only, means the same way we have to retract backwards.""

Like making a long trip, if one stops continously to watch the scenery, it will take "longer". 
Oh Arunachala, blazing fire of Jnana, in my heart I pray and think of Thee from afar, root out the ego, merging me in the Self.