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Re: Bhagawan's attitude towards sex
« Reply #30 on: February 18, 2010, 11:44:07 PM »
"Fall" is relative. Going from a state of Self to merely thoughts about Self would indeed be a fall. Constant thoughts about food is still starvation, and not the same as eating food.

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Re: Bhagawan's attitude towards sex
« Reply #31 on: February 19, 2010, 11:02:08 AM »
Dear soham3,

There was a long debate on David Godman's blog whether "desiring the
Self (Ramana) is a desire in the strict sense.  Many many wrote their
comments.  Finally, it was clarified that desiring the Self is the only
thought that one sincere sadhak should have.  This is permitted.

Arunachala Siva.

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Re: Bhagawan's attitude towards sex
« Reply #32 on: February 19, 2010, 11:58:07 PM »
Dear srkudai,

Who is Ramana? What is within and without? One can talk about these after realization. Until then thoughts are the cause of relative downfall.

 




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Re: Bhagawan's attitude towards sex
« Reply #33 on: February 20, 2010, 12:05:18 AM »
Dear Subramanian,

From the standpoint of a sadhak (relative), he is bound to have desires/thoughts. To the extent that one thought keeps out others, desire for Self could be helpful. Of course it is also a desire in any sense.

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Re: Bhagawan's attitude towards sex
« Reply #34 on: February 20, 2010, 08:37:26 PM »
Now my point is that physical sex is better and superior to mental sex. I say this because any amount of mental sex between Sundaram Aiyer and Azhagammal would not have given us Ramana. World had the maharshi because of the physical sex between his parents. 
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Re: Bhagawan's attitude towards sex
« Reply #35 on: February 21, 2010, 12:26:11 AM »
True from the relative standpoint of beginners who are mentally active with these issues. It is a blessing to be with jnanis. However, from the standpoint of the jnani, Ramana is not a body that has been produced by two other bodies.

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Re: Bhagawan's attitude towards sex
« Reply #36 on: May 05, 2013, 08:07:27 AM »
Once one lady came alone to stay at the ashramam to escape torture from her family members. When her stay became longer, Bhagawan became scared and said to Chinnaswamy, " People may think that Swamy (Bhagawan) has kept her for himself, so send her away".
Did he find for her another place to stay?
Did he help her with her troubles?

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Re: Bhagawan's attitude towards sex
« Reply #37 on: May 05, 2013, 09:07:50 AM »
Dear Jyoti,

I am not sure whether Sri Bhagavan found her an alternate place.  But one thing you should always remember.  Sri
Bhagavan has transcended the differences of male, female and transgender.   He found everyone as Self, the Self which
is nothing but Effulgence, though it is formless and nameless.  See Verse 4 of Arunachala Navamani Maalai.

.....O Lord who is all Light, beyond male, female and neuter........

Arunachala Siva.