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Vritis through ignorance
« on: April 15, 2010, 12:46:28 PM »
Sri Thapas Swami said;

I was in the habit of doing meditation in stages through vichara of the pancha kosas, five sheaths. When i was doing thus in bhagavan's presence, after going past the vigyanamaya kosa and entering anandamaya kosa a doubt arose thus.The bliss that one experiences by seeing, acquiring and enjoying various sense objects is enjoyed simultaneously in the absense of objects  in the anandamaya kosa. I could not understand how this ananda vriti arises in the absence of objects in anandamaya kosa. Immediately i put forth my doubt to bhagavan.

"He asked me in stentorian voice 'In which book is this said? Bring it and we shall see it' I had to say that the book was not with me and it was on the basis of some rememberence that i was doing this vichara and this doubt had come up only that day. After passing of two minutes, bhagavan replied 'The vritis of desiring [priya], seeking [moda] and enjoying [pramoda] are to be understood as arising from latent ignorance'.

Since then i have been following bhagavan's advice i.e attending to the experiencer and ignoring the effects.

[Mountain Path, 1986 -July, 23/24]


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Re: Vritis through ignorance
« Reply #1 on: April 15, 2010, 12:56:36 PM »
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Atma is always Sat-Chit-Ananda. Of these, the first two are experienced in all the states, whereas the last one is said to be experienced in sleep only.

The question arises how the true nature of the Self can be lost in the waking and dream states.It is,really speaking,not lost.In sleep there is no mind and the Self shines as Itself,whereas in the other two states what shines forth is the reflected light of the Self.

Ananda is felt after the cessation of thoughts in sleep. It is also manifest on other occasions as love, joy, etc., priya, moda and pramoda. But they are all chitta vrittis (modes of mind).

When a man is walking in the street his mind is full of fleeting thoughts. Suppose he passes a bazaar where some fine mangoes are for sale. He likes the mangoes and purchases them. He is next anxious to taste them. So he hastens home and eats them and feels happy.

When the fleeting thoughts give way to the pleasure at the sight of mangoes, it is priya, when he gets them as his own, the pleasure is moda; lastly, when he eats them, the pleasure is pramoda.

All the three kinds of pleasure are owing to the disappearance of other thoughts.