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Atma vichara(self-enquiry)-Doing or Being
« on: August 20, 2008, 10:02:17 PM »
Is self-enquiry a doing or being.
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Re: Atma vichara(self-enquiry)-Doing or Being
« Reply #1 on: August 21, 2008, 11:58:43 AM »
Dear Raju, self enquiry is doing.  Being the Self is being.  As
Bhagavan said:  Be still and your are the Self.

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« Reply #2 on: August 21, 2008, 12:23:09 PM »
Dear subramaian,
                      If self-enquiry is doing is it a mental activity?Nonduel says that it is being.
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Re: Atma vichara(self-enquiry)-Doing or Being
« Reply #3 on: August 21, 2008, 04:00:07 PM »
Self-Enquiry is a doing to achieve a Being.

Dear Subramanian is correct that it is a doing. Before Realisation every sadhana is a doing and duality
Oh Arunachala, blazing fire of Jnana, in my heart I pray and think of Thee from afar, root out the ego, merging me in the Self.

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Re: Atma vichara(self-enquiry)-Doing or Being
« Reply #4 on: August 21, 2008, 04:23:22 PM »
Dear Raju, Non duel has answered your point further.  I have
the same view.

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Re: Atma vichara(self-enquiry)-Doing or Being
« Reply #5 on: August 21, 2008, 05:00:01 PM »
Dear nonduel,
                   Your statement is mature because inthe initial stages self-enquiry starts as doing only because human knows doing only.
If there is doing there is going to be struggle.All doing involves change and change requires time.In the precise moment we cannot do
anything but can just"be".Self-enquiry is the art of just "being" attentively and vigilantly self-conscious in which there is no room for objective
knowledge and so there will be no rise of thought.In that state of self-enquiry we dont exist as a separate entity,so self-enquiry is nondual.
Atma vichara is not a kind of action or doing but it only a state of being.We can prepare the mind for self-enquiry by doing but we cannot
enforce a state of being by doing.Actually in that state, doing is a hurdle rather than a help to self-enquiry because all doing is a thought
activity which is the main hindrance for self-enquiry.
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