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« Reply #15 on: September 02, 2008, 09:56:53 PM »
DEAR MEMBERS,

IT IS VERY CLEAR THAT WE ARE ONLY THE INSTRUMENTS AND PLAYER IS THE SELF.

ACTIONS ARE ONLY THE ROLES WE PLAY AT TIMES, BUT WE REMAIN AS SELF FOREVER.

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« Reply #16 on: September 03, 2008, 11:35:32 AM »
Dear Sankar,  If we are the Self, we are the instruments and
the player.  We are the actors and the audience!

Aunachala Siva.

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« Reply #17 on: September 13, 2008, 11:12:00 AM »
Dear srkudai,  Well written. It is the mind which is the engineer
behind all dualities,  sukham, dukkam, good and bad, pleasure
and pain, world and jive, god and man et al.  Sadhana is nothing
but fighting and killing the dualities.


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« Reply #18 on: September 13, 2008, 01:53:16 PM »
Dear srkudai,
                 Can you elaborate on what is dharma and what is adharma.Is dharma an opposite state of adharma?
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« Reply #19 on: October 10, 2008, 12:21:21 PM »
Dear srkudai, Very much Yes.  If we look constantly at Siva,
with full surrender, then the ajnanam leaves us.  Then we become
vehicle for Siva. we carry Brahma Jnanam.  For the ignorant, the
world is real; during self enquiry, the world is looked upon as
unreal, like a dream.  After Self Knowledge, the world again is
real, this time, it is Brahma Swarupa.  Sri Ramakrishna's pillow
case example is quite approrpriate, let us be the cover in which
Self is always there, real, shining and blisssful.

Arunachala Siva.

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« Reply #20 on: October 10, 2008, 03:03:19 PM »
Quote
yatra vishvam idaM bhaati kalpitaM rajju-sarpavat

Coz the very idea that something is mine is a grave mistake. God alone remains who is there to possess anything ? Such a puzzle this is, isnt it ?

So clinging to non... for Kasyasvid dhanam ? Whose is Wealth ? [Isavasya upanishad].


 everything happens as God wills ... no doer ... only God.

This is the understanding ... There is nothing to practise in this. Only an understanding. That there is no "doer" ... since there is no doer, who does? Who practises ? The one who thinks he is the doer is destroyed by this knowledge ... and we become , to quote Sri Ramakrishna: A Pillow Case, the Pillow is God.

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AS THERE IS NOTHING TO DO; IT ULTIMATELY SETTLES AT ETERNAL SILENCE.

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« Reply #21 on: October 10, 2008, 09:34:25 PM »
Dear srkudai ji

Thanks for the nice simple explaination. After coming to this forum I understood the consiousness,awarness,God, the real "I" and self all are same. You say we have to be witness whatever it happens with us within our body, with our family then society.world at last the most in the universe. We can be witness to the all except with our body. The moment an ant bits, I cannot be as a witness whereas I can be to my kids at least. Because the "I" ness dwells within my body.
But I can watch my mind sitting quietly that too  the past experiences. In present, mind becomes the boss. and actions are started. As you say by Nidhidhayasm only we can be a witness. When God and self both are same why we are only being affected. Because of our doership?

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« Reply #22 on: October 11, 2008, 10:38:51 AM »
Dear Ramanaduli,

You have asked when god and self are both the same, why are
we alone affected?  Yes, as you said, it is due to our sense of
doership.  It is the mind, the ego and the vasanas that make the
difference.

Arunachala Siva.

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« Reply #23 on: October 11, 2008, 05:21:43 PM »
Dear Subrahmanyan ji

To wipe out our old vasanas and future vasanas, I feel it is necessary to chant  or remember"I" am who gets suffering is BLISS, EVER LASTING  PARIPUNA SELF.instead of chanting slokas. In the early stage this slokas are necessary as we used to go temple only for SUNDAL in our childhood.


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« Reply #24 on: October 11, 2008, 05:47:40 PM »
Dear Ramanaduli,

Bhagavan Ramana said:  Simply you ask, "Who am I?" and then
go to the source of mind.  There are several ways, under Bhakti
Marga, Yoga Marga and Karma Marga.  The Jnana Marga, merely
says, You contemplate on Guru's teachings and find out who you are
and You are That.

Arunachala Siva. 

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« Reply #25 on: October 11, 2008, 07:31:26 PM »
Dear srkudai

After posting my mail "ant biting" I went to Suddananda's site and heard His speech on "Mind". After listening I try to answer for how I can be a witness for my ant bite. Yes as you said first I got the pain and felt it in my brain then I say. My mind only connected my body with the "I". My mind takes the true "I" and acts. as it is suffering. whereas no body ever can touch the true "I". and the body as it is jadam it does not have the mouth to tell. So it is the play of my mind, all the problems are started.  Being the false "I" I say I am suffering. If I do not have the mind then I do not feel the pain, rather some one sees and tells me O here you are bitten by the ant and your body has got swollen.  Like Sadasiva brahmendhra.
Being and living in the false "I" I feel the pain but not the witness. If there is no mind then only I can be a witness. Am I right? Your explainations are highly appreciated.

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« Reply #26 on: October 12, 2008, 11:22:59 AM »
Dear Ramanaduli,  When the mind is vanquished, there is only
Matter.  Matter is ever blissful.  No pain, no suffering, no misery,
no happiness. It just IS.

Arunachala Siva.

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« Reply #27 on: October 21, 2008, 07:10:08 AM »
Dear srkudai ji

Before knowing any sastras, samhita we will be an ordinary people so at least we can enjoy the morning tea, breeze founa and flora. But when we come to know who is seeing, who is the enjoyer. etc. i.e atma vichara... all worldly pleasures does not give any pleasure. we know it is all maya, not going to everlasting. Then how we can have the experiences?
Sometimes  I feel ignorance is bliss. what is to be done with the mind now?


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« Reply #28 on: October 21, 2008, 07:52:09 AM »
Dear Ramanaduli,

Yes, I learnt this. Ignorance is really bliss. Intelligence is hinderance.

we have to use intelligence to fight and remove intelligence as the source of intelligence is bliss and intelligence is maya and grows our EGO with false pride and I am the boss.

The BOSS is one all. All are from him and that is BLISS.

All of us left our originality and sufferring with our intelligence which has taken origin, birth from BLISS and obstructing the BLISS.

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« Reply #29 on: October 27, 2008, 01:15:02 PM »
Dear srkudai,  Brahman is not a Sadya Vastu.  It is a Satya Vastu.
All our efforts towards a goal are there  only to find that there was
never any goal!  Wonderful.

Arunachala Siva.