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Ramana Maharshi views about varnasrama differences
« on: March 27, 2010, 11:17:35 AM »
D.: If varnasrama dharma be meant, such dharma prevails only in India. On the other hand the Gita should be universally applicable.

M.: There is varnasrama in some form or other in every land. The significance is that one should hold on to the single Atman and not swerve therefrom. That is the whole gist of it.

One visitor asked Bhagavan if it was not necessary that the varnasrama differences should go if the nation was to progress.

Bhagavan: How can one say whether it is necessary or not necessary? I never say anything on such subjects. People often come and ask me for my opinion on varnasrama. If I say anything they will at once go and publish in the papers, ‘So and so also is of such and such an opinion.’ The same scriptures which have laid down varnasrama dharma have also proclaimed the oneness of all life and abheda buddhi as the only reality. Is it possible for anyone to teach a higher truth than the Unity or Oneness of all life? There is no need for anyone to start reforming the country or the nation before reforming himself.

Each man’s first duty is to realise his true nature. If after doing it, he feels like reforming the country or nation, by all means let him take up such reform. Ram Tirtha advertised,‘Wanted reformers — but reformers who will reform themselves first.’ No two persons in the world can be alike or can act alike.

External differences are bound to persist, however hard we may try to obliterate them. The attempts of so-called social reformers, to do away with such classes or divisions as varnasrama has created, have not succeeded, but have only created new divisions and added a few more castes or classes to the already existing ones, such as the Brahmo-Samajists and the Arya-Samajists.

The only solution is for each man to realise his true nature.


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Re: Ramana Maharshi views about varnasrama differences
« Reply #1 on: March 28, 2010, 02:15:28 PM »
I think I have written already about Bhagavan Ramana's views on
Varnasrama dharma.  He did not care a bit about it but He did
not at the same time criticize others for observing these rules.
He lived by the codes of the society at that prevalent time.  The
Asramam lunch hall had different rows for brahmins and nonbrahmins, (it is not there today) and Bhagavan Ramana used
to sit perpendicular to both the rows.  Brahmins were served
food first, and the non brahmins next.  The Brahmins did not take
a second helping, because the food had already been tasted by the
non brahmins.  There used to be someone who would sit at the
same leaf after Bhagavan Ramana sat to take the remains or a
fresh serving on that leaf!  Sometimes when Mudaliar Patti's
food had been served to Bhagavan, no one would eat on the same leaf of Bhagavan Ramana because the food of Patti had been there!  Such was the "morals" of the times!  Once Muruganar was forbidden from taking food in the same leaf, since Mudaliar Patti's food had already been served!  Muruganar known for his extempore poems wrote to mean as follows:

"The fellow (Brahma) who gave the four Vedas but himself does not know how to give a birth for me, has made this lowly brahmincal birth to me.  If he had made me a dog, I would have gladly eaten Bhagavan Ramana's ucchishtam, (the remains of the leaf)."

The Tamil verse comes in Guru Vachaka Kovai as Ucchishta Vaibhavam. It starts as:  Thacchriyatha chatur marai paarpan...

Arunachala Siva.