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Ramana Maharshi about Death
« on: March 13, 2010, 02:05:32 PM »
L.: The birth of a person and his life and death are real to us.

B.: Because you wrongly identify yourself with the body,you think of the other also as a body. Neither you nor he is the body.

L.: But from my own level of understanding, I regard myself and my son as real.

B.: The birth of the ‘I’-thought is a person’s birth and its death is his death. After the ‘I’-thought has arisen, the wrong identification with the body arises. Identifying yourself with the body makes you falsely identify others also with their bodies.Just as your body was born and grows and will die, so you think the other also was born, grew and died. Did you think of your son before he was born? The thought came after his birth and continues even after his death. He is your son only insofar as you think of him. Where has he gone? To the source from which he sprang. So long as you continue to exist, he does too. But if you cease to identify yourself with the body and realise the true Self, this confusion will vanish. You are eternal and others also will be found to be eternal. Until this is realised there will always be grief due to false values which are caused by wrong knowledge and wrong identification.

Source: The Teachings of Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi in His Own Words Edited By ARTHUR OSBORNE

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Re: Ramana Maharshi about Death
« Reply #1 on: March 13, 2010, 02:42:23 PM »
All thoughts that emanate from the mind, are unreal.  When Bhagavan Ramana
said Deham (Body) itself is unreal, then its birth and death are also unreal.
It is as unreal as the universe.  Anything that changes is unreal.  Body gets
senility, disease and death.  It changes.  The world also constantly changes.
Today's land are becomes sea due to Tsunami.  Today ocean area suddenly
shows an island.  All are unreal.  In Ulladu Narpadu, however, He says that
only with this unreal body, one should know the Reality.

Arunachala Siva.

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Re: Ramana Maharshi about Death
« Reply #2 on: March 14, 2010, 07:25:34 PM »

 Anything that changes is unreal. 

 

Brahman Itself changes. Sometimes, It is Awareness. At other times, It is bliss or consciousness or manifold creation. Does that mean that Brahman is unreal ?
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Re: Ramana Maharshi about Death
« Reply #3 on: March 14, 2010, 09:44:51 PM »

 Anything that changes is unreal.

 

Brahman Itself changes. Sometimes, It is Awareness. At other times, It is bliss or consciousness or manifold creation. Does that mean that Brahman is unreal ?

The Brahman you described is verily unreal. For say to me, when Awareness is not always? it does not change. When it is not bliss? it does not change. When It is not consciousness? it does not change.
Trying separate one and the same thing. It is all bhavana.

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Re: Ramana Maharshi about Death
« Reply #4 on: March 15, 2010, 11:24:56 AM »
Dear soham3,

Awareness never changes.  It is nirvikara.  Only our epithets to call Brahman
as Awareness or Consciousness, do change.  It is our mind which calls It in
different names.  In fact, one Westerner, who is the head of Ramana Centre
in London has said that even to call it as Consciousness is incorrect.  Because
consciousness is interpreted severally as subconsciousness, consciousness and
super consciousness etc., 

Arunachala Siva.