Author Topic: Swami Vivekananda says We and the Ruler of the Universe are one  (Read 1579 times)

ramana_maharshi

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Source: Volume 1, Lectures And Discourses : Reason and Religion Delivered in England

The sum-total of this universe is immovable, we know, but everything pertaining to this universe consists of motion, everything is in a constant state of flux, everything changing and moving. At the same time, we see that the universe as a whole is immovable, because motion is a relative term. I move with regard to the chair, which does not move. There must be at least two to make motion. If this whole universe is taken as a unit there is no motion; with regard to what should it move? Thus the Absolute is unchangeable and immovable, and all the movements and changes are only in the phenomenal world, the limited. That whole is Impersonal, and within this Impersonal are all these various persons beginning with the lowest atom, up to God, the Personal God, the Creator, the Ruler of the Universe, to whom we pray, before whom we kneel, and so on. Such a Personal God can be established with a great deal of reason. Such a Personal God is explicable as the highest manifestation of the Impersonal. You and I are very low manifestations, and the Personal God is the highest of which we can conceive. Nor can you or I become that Personal God.

When the Vedanta says you and I are God, it does not mean the Personal God. To take an example. Out of a mass of clay a huge elephant of clay is manufactured, and out of the same clay, a little clay mouse is made. Would the clay mouse ever be able to become the clay elephant? But put them both in water and they are both clay; as clay they are both one, but as mouse and elephant there will be an eternal difference between them. The Infinite, the Impersonal, is like the clay in the example. We and the Ruler of the Universe are one, but as manifested beings, men, we are His eternal slaves, His worshippers. Thus we see that the Personal God remains. Everything else in this relative world remains, and religion is made to stand on a better foundation. Therefore it is necessary, that we first know the Impersonal in order to know the Personal.


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Re: Swami Vivekananda says We and the Ruler of the Universe are one
« Reply #1 on: March 06, 2010, 10:51:26 AM »
Dear srkudai,

Excellent.  We think of everything else but we never think we are the Existence-
Knowledge and Bliss.  That is the only Yathartham, as Bhagavan Ramana says
in Who am I?  "The world, Iswara and the Jiva are all imaginations."  At 21, one
should have complete realization to make this statement.

Arunachala Siva.