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Panchadasi - (5)
« on: August 18, 2008, 03:26:28 PM »
Chapter VII continues...

Verse 71:-  In, "You are That", 'You' denotes the consciousness,
which is limited or circumscribed by the adjunct the inner organ
and which is the object of the word "I".

Verse 72:-  The Absolute Consciousness, conditioned by
the primeval ignorance, Maya, which is the cause of the universe,
is all knowing etc.,  and can be known indirectly, and whose
nature is Truth, Knowledge and Infinity, is indicated by the
word, "That".

Verse 74:-  In sentences like, You are That, only the logical rule
of partial elimination ** is to be applied, as in the terms of "That
is this, not others"

(that is, in "This is that Shakespeare," we negate the attributes
of time and place, both present and past and take into account
only the person himself.  Similarly, in the text,  "You are That",
we negate the conflicting attributes such as omniscience, and
the limited knowledge, which characterize Iswara and Jiva,
respectively, and taker into account only the immutable consciousness.)

This is That Shakespeare.  This Shakespeare, who is now seen here
in Tiruvannamalai is that same Shakespeare, who was seen last year,
in Paris. Here, the time, "now seen", the present, "seen last year"
the past are both eliminated, taking only the person, Shakespeare.
Again, the space, Tiruvannamalai and Paris are eliminated, since
we are interested only in the person.  This is what to be used,
in You are That; that is You, the jiva and That, the Brahman are taken
only with the immutable consciousness element, and not with eliminating
attributes of omniscience and limited knowledge of Brahman
and Jiva.   This is called Jahat-ajhat lakshana, the logical rule of
partial elimination.

**  I shall explain the logical rule of partial elimination, with
the standard examples given in Viveka Choodamani, separately.


Arunachala Siva.


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Re: Panchadasi - (5)
« Reply #1 on: August 18, 2008, 07:23:00 PM »
You are not object knowing consciousness as you imagine to be,you are pure unadulterated self-conscious being.
If you disidentify with the adjuncts you will know this.Adjuncts shape the consciousness as object knowing.
Self-consciousness is not dependent on anything for it's existence,where as adjuncts cannot function independently of consciousness.
Learn the art to live without identity with the adjuncts,then you will know that "you are that" for yourself.


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Re: Panchadasi - (5)
« Reply #2 on: August 18, 2008, 07:59:32 PM »
Dear DRPSSVN Raju, yes, the removal of objective consciousness,
takes us to realize the Self-consciousness.

Arunachala Siva.