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Subramanian.R

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Sri Devi Kaalottaram
« on: February 05, 2010, 09:05:30 AM »
Sri Devi Kaalottaram, Jnanachara Vichara Patalam, rendered in
Tamil verses by Bhagavan Ramana, in 85 verses from Sanskrit Upa-Agama, (auxillary scripture), is one of the lesser read or known of Bhagavan's works, like the Atma Sakshatkara Patalam.

While I was away from comp. for 6 days, in a different flat in the
city, I wanted to go through these two books.  They are quite
interesting and whatever has been spoken in these scriptures,
Bhagavan Ramana was a living example.

Verse 12:

nivritto vishayajnaanaat nishkala jnaanataparah |
anicchanapi medhavee labhate mokshamakshayam ||

Being rid of the worldly knowledge, the great hero who has
acquired pure wisdom, in which there are no sense objects
and which is all pervading and without any form, will attain
immutable moksha without fail, even though he may have no
desire to attain liberation.

(Source: Tr. Sri Ramanasramam, Tiruvannamalai, 1998)

Arunachala Siva.

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Re: Sri Devi Kaalottaram
« Reply #1 on: February 06, 2010, 07:57:06 AM »
what is the history behind the sloka? when did bhagavan compose it?

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Re: Sri Devi Kaalottaram
« Reply #2 on: February 06, 2010, 09:34:20 AM »
Dear SLakshmi,

I do not know the exact year.  This might have been transalted into
verses much later, say in 1930s.  Arthur Osborne, who gives the
occasion and the year in which each work has been rendered by
Bhagavan Ramana, has not given any details.  The translation of
Osborne in English prose is quite good.

Arunachala Siva.

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Re: Sri Devi Kaalottaram
« Reply #3 on: February 06, 2010, 09:39:55 AM »
Dear SLakshmi,

I am sorry for the incorrect information given in the previous post.
There is one old book of Sri Ramanasramam, published in 1998,
which gives the information that the work was written by Bhagavan
Ramana in "one go, spontaneously, sometime during His stay in
Virupaksha Cave, when someone brought the Sanskrit version."
Then, it must be between 1898-1915.

Arunachala Siva.
 

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Re: Sri Devi Kaalottaram
« Reply #4 on: February 06, 2010, 09:52:26 AM »
Dear I,

Yes, Bhagavan actually assisted every kind of devotees, for devotees who could not understand Sanskrit, he helped them by translating any work they wanted to read in their language of comfort, and for ones who could not understand tamil works, he helped them by translating the work into sanskrit.

Devi Kaallottara is lesser known book among other Ramana Literature. Ramana Maharshi translated these verses into tamil in the very same order, without any references from the original, there are a total of 84 verses. Only a jnani could do it.

This teaching is some what different from most of the other ancient works because, I believe, this work not only teaches the Supreme Truth, but also the way to live, or go about in ones daily life, for example:

Verse 45:

A Wise man should not give up the body out of aversion to it. Know that when once Prarabdha Karma, which was responsible foor the creation of the body ceases, the bodily burden will automatically fall off.

Verse 70:

A true aspirant should not pull out tender roots (of fragrant plants, which is often done for worship); he should not even pluck the leaves; he should not harm any living thing out of anger; he should not heartlessly pluck even the flowers.

Each verse is so beautiful, so enlightening. soul teaching

Salutations to Sri Ramana
॥ शांतमात्मनि तिष्ट ॥
Remain quietly in the Self.
~ Vasishta

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Re: Sri Devi Kaalottaram
« Reply #5 on: February 06, 2010, 09:27:46 PM »
Devikalottaram is very beautiful. I was listening to it from the ashram website....and reading alongside the english translation from the book. Will try and include it in my sloka parayanam...

Even the name Devikalottaram sounds beautiful. what does it mean? how is it pronounced? is it devika - lottaram or devi-kalottaram?


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Re: Sri Devi Kaalottaram
« Reply #6 on: February 07, 2010, 09:16:19 AM »
Dear SLakshmi,

I am happy that you are listening to Devi Kaalottaram.  It is
pronounced as Devi + Kaalottaram.  It is the Upadesa given
by Siva to Uma, when Devi wanted to know what is the way
to achieve the timeless bliss of the Self.  Then Siva answers.
Devi does a drama as if she does not know. She is Mahamaya
and she only makes the time and space.  When Siva is prayed
or the Self-enquiry is done, this time (and space) vanishes. She
wanted thus this Upadesa to be given to the enquirers.  There
is one more called Atma Sakshatkara Patalam.  This was the Upadesa given to Skanda about Atma.

Arunachala Siva.