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Bhavadvaitam & Kriyadvaitam
« on: February 03, 2010, 05:38:42 PM »
Sankra talks about Bhavadvaitam and Kriyadvaitam.
Bhava : In "Being"
Kriya: In Action.

Advaitam is non-duality.

The concept is one has to have Advaitam in Being and not in action. That is to say when someone asks "who are you", please do not think its wise to "keep quiet" or reply "Brahman". that reply is kriya ... action. in action there need not be advaitam. By replying i am Brahman i do not become any more wise than by replying i am udai. infact the later reply is atlest worldly wise. The first one is stupid both philosophically and relatively!

Same with everything... Have Advaita in Bhavam. not in action ...
I read this interesting verse and some explanation on it in the book Maha Yoga by "WHO" ... thats a very nice book.



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Re: Bhavadvaitam & Kriyadvaitam
« Reply #1 on: February 03, 2010, 06:00:56 PM »
yes even ramana maharhi says so..


Letter 41

15th April, 1946

Devotee: It is said that the Advaita attitude should not be shown towards the Guru, even if it is shown towards all the three worlds.”

Bhagavan: “Yes, it is so. The Advaita attitude does not mean that you should not do namaskar and the like. Only it should not be overdone. Advaita should be in bhava, in the disposition of the mind; it will not do for outside, worldly affairs. You are asked to look at everything with equality (sama drishti) but can we eat the same food that a dog eats? A handful of grain will do for a bird but will that do for us? We eat a certain quantity of food but will that be enough for an elephant? So you should have the attitude of Advaita only in bhava, in the mind, but you should follow the world in other matters. Though there are no pains and pleasures for a Jnani, for the sake of others, he does everything. He is like those who beat their chests, and weep loudly, if ordered to, for an agreed wage. That is all. He is not affected by it,” said Bhagavan.

Someone asked, “What is that about beating chests and weeping for wages?” Bhagavan replied, “In olden times, there used to be such a practice. Supposing some elderly person dies and no one in the house bothers to weep for him, what is to be done? Someone must weep for the person who is dead. That was required by custom. There used to be some professional people whose vocation was to weep for afee. If called, they used to weep better than the deceased’s kith and kin, methodically, like bhajan and with great variety, by beating their chests and shedding tears, which flowed either by long practice or by squeezing onion juice into their eyes, and they used to finish this programme to schedule. In the same manner, the Jnani conducts himself according to the wishes of others. He keeps time to whatever tune is sung.

As he is well-experienced, nothing is new to him. He goes to whoever calls him. He puts on whatever garb he is asked to wear. It is all for the sake of others, as he does not desire anything for himself. His action will be according to the desire of the person who asks. One must therefore find out for oneself sufficiently well what is really good and what is really bad,” said Bhagavan.

1) Letters from Sri Ramanasramam by Suri Nagamma