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Atma Pradakshina
« on: January 05, 2010, 09:35:39 PM »
The ego which goes round like a whirlwind must get destroyed, and must
get absorbed in Atma.  "Go round yourself. That will be Atma
pradakshina", said Bhagawan.
O Divine, lead me to dizzy heights of sublimity & loftiness

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Re: Atma Pradakshina
« Reply #1 on: January 06, 2010, 12:44:24 PM »
Dear soham3,

I am very happy that you mentioned this today.  Only last evening,
I started reading Lingeswara Rao's Ribhu Gita, Sanskrit-English
version.

On 15th April 1946, when Suri Nagamma was circumambulating the Old Hall, Bhagavan Ramana observed:  "O You have also started
this.  Have you learnt it from Ravanamma?...."  After that He said:
"After all, the proper pradakshina is going round the Self, or, more
accurately, to realize that we are the Self and that within us all
the countless spheres revolve, going round and round, as described
in Ribhu Gita III.39."

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The contemplation that I am the perfectly full, blissful Self
Is the scattering of flowers in worship,
The contemplation that the universe with its myriad activities
  revoles around me,
Constitutes the prescribed cirumambulation.
The contemplation that all will ever bow to me,
And I shall neve bow to anyone,
Ever constitutes the bow (namaskaram),
To the great Linga of the Self.

  - Verse translation by Dr. H. Ramamoorthy and Nome

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Lingeshwara Rao gives a verse transation as:-

Referring "I am the all blissful Self"
Is worship as with words and flowers,
True cirumambulation is the thought
"In me the million universes roll"
He who knows all beings bow to him
And he to none
He bows before the Mahalinga Siva.   

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Lingeshwara Rao's book is based on the original Sanskrit, VI amsa
of Siva Rahasyam.  The Ramamoorthy & Nome's translation is
based on Tamil Ribhu Gita, rendered by Bhikshu Sastrigal, (alias
Ulaganatha Swamigal), which Bhagavan Ramana often refers.
The arrangments of verses are some what at variance in both
the books.

Arunachala Siva.

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Re: Atma Pradakshina
« Reply #2 on: January 06, 2010, 02:22:30 PM »
"What is meant by Pradakshina?"  Sri Sankara has written:

"Real Pradakshina is the meditation that thousands of universes
are revolving around the Great Lord, the unmoving centre of all
forms."

"The same bhava was expressed in Tamil by the author of Ribhu
Gita in greater detail."  So saying Bhagavan Ramana got that book;
read it and told us the following:

"Oh Lord!  I went all round the world to do Pradakshina to you
but you are in fullness everywhere.  How then could I complete
a round?  I shall worship you as 'kutastha akhila rupa' - immovable
entire form of the worlds.  That is the only Pradakshina to you.
Namaskaram also means the same thing.  The merging of the mind
in the Self is namaskaram and not the mere act of prostrating
whenever you get up or sit down or whenever you go that side or
come this side."....  Though there are no pains and pleasures for
a Jnani, for the sake of others, he does everything.  He is like those
who beat their chests, and weep loudly, if ordered to, for an agreed
wage, in a house where there is a dead body ready for cremation.
That is all.  He is not affected by it."

 - From Suri Nagamma's Letters from Sri Ramanasramam,  entry dated 15.4.1946. Sri Ramanasramama, Ed. 2006.

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The same conversations of Bhagavan Ramana have been recorded
by Devaraja Mudaliar also, along with the original Tamil verse of
Ribhu Gita, XIX.56.  i shall only give the translation of the verse
in English.

"If the Guru refers to dvaita , when teaching advaita to the disciple, it is not be regarded as his real teaching any more than one should regard as real the grief of one who weeps, (in a house with a dead body), because he is paid so.

  - Devaraja Mudaliar, Day by Day with Bhagavan, Sri Ramanasramam, Tiruvannamalai.

Arunachala Siva.     

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Re: Atma Pradakshina
« Reply #3 on: January 06, 2010, 02:27:15 PM »
Once Sri Bhagavan presented Sampuranamma, with a copy of
Ribhu Gita and asked her to study the book.  When she wanted
to be excused on the ground that that she did not understand
a word of it, Sri Bhagavan persisted and asked her to read it all
the same.  "It does not matter that you do not understand," he
said "Still it will be of benefit to you."

Thus Sampuranamma's life which had the full potential of becoming
one of sorrow and grief due to early widowhood and childlessness,
was transformed in to an active and spiritualized way of life.

  -  Mountain Path, June 1993.   (Page 103)

Arunachala Siva.

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Re: Atma Pradakshina
« Reply #4 on: January 06, 2010, 04:06:30 PM »
Long time ago I went to Kanchipuram to have darshan of Paramacharya. His holiness was doing sandhyavandanam. His eyes were closed. Lot of people were siting infront of Him. After sometime one attendant put a basket full of shoe flower in front of Him. At the end, He took the flowers put four sides of Him. Finally He took one handfull of flower (it contained half basket of flower) and put on His Head. I did not ask anyone why He did and what was the meaning because I do not have any qualification to ask.  But after going this atma pradakshina, I think, Maha periyaval must have become atma ligeswara so He might have offered the flowers
.Therefore He put the flowers on His Head.


Ramanaduli