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Subramanian.R

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The Sage and the Self Realization
« on: December 04, 2009, 02:28:10 PM »
From Sadhu Arunachala (Major Chadwick) writes, in Arunachala's
Ramana, Boundless Ocean of Grace, Volume 6, Sri Ramanasramam,
Tiruvannamalai:-

"Those who expect Bhagavan Ramana to hand them Self Realization,
as if it were some tangible thing, are surely sadly deluded.  How
can anybody give one what one has already got?  All He can do
is to help one to remove the ignorance that hides it.  It is like
going to lake with a cup and sitting by its side praying to it to
fill the cup with water.  You may sit there for a thousand years
but it is certain that unless you lean forward and dip the cup
into the water yourself, nothing will happen.  Even then you
have to make certain that the cup is not already full of a lot
of rubbish.  Most cups are!

"How then to obtain the perfect state?"  -- you may ask.  You
may as well ask, "How to empty the cup of rubbish?"

Bhagavan Ramana tells one other thing.  He says "BE".  Just
be your real Self, that is all. 

"Certainly it sounds all right," you say "but when one tries to
do it, it does not seem easy.  Has He no method?"

Method!  Well what exactly do you mean by method?  Sitting
on the floor and concentrating on the navel?  Or blowing the
wind out of alternative nostrils?  Or repeating some incantation
one 10 million and 8 times?  No, He has not got any method.

All these are no doubt good in their way and help to prepare
one.  But Bhagavan does not happen to teach them.  That is all!

"Then what am I to do?"

"You must just BE," He says.  And to BE, you must know the
" I that is."  To know the "I that is", just go on enquiring,
"Who am I?"  Don't take any notice of anything except the "I",
throw everything else like the rubbish out of the cup.  And when you have at last found the "I" BE.

All talk.  All empty words.  "There is nothing to find.  Nothing
at all is except the "I".  Why worry about anything else?  Just BE, now and always, as you were, as you are, and as you ever will be. 

It sounds so easy, doesn't it?  Bhagavan Ramana says that it is the easiest thing in the world.  Ayye adi sulabham, anma viddhai....I really don't know.

The fact is that all our hidden vices and evil tendencies  start to pop up their heads, which one never suspected were there at all.  But it is all for the good.   Bhagavan Ramana says that they all have to come out.  But let them come out, not take charge.  Don't give way to them. This practice is not really easy, as we all know.

(And that is where we all seek Bhagavan Ramana's abundant Grace, Karunaiyal ennai anda nee enakku un kakshi tharalilyai enral..... Sri Arunachala Padigam, Verse 1.  The Guru who has told us the Goal shall also show us the way out.)

Arunachala Siva.                 

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Re: The Sage and the Self Realization
« Reply #1 on: December 04, 2009, 06:25:12 PM »
Dear Subramanian-ji,

Wonderful post. 

Quote:  "The fact is that all our hidden vices and evil tendencies  start to pop up their heads, which one never suspected were there at all.  But it is all for the good.   Bhagavan Ramana says that they all have to come out.  But let them come out, not take charge.  Don't give way to them. This practice is not really easy, as we all know."

It is weird to have these old memories surging. My dear Subramanian, I do not think it is difficult to just let those thoughts dissolve. Sometime it is tricky because I will react spontaniously and emotions will rise. But I will become aware of my reactions and just stop to return to the self.
I will systematically reject the thought that the practice is not easy. In other word, the thought of difficulty has to be "treated" the same way as the "old" vasanas.

It is hard if we accept that it is. Doubt is the culprit!  And knowing what is happening, as explained by Sri Ramana, dissolves those doubts.

Arunachala Siva
Oh Arunachala, blazing fire of Jnana, in my heart I pray and think of Thee from afar, root out the ego, merging me in the Self.

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Re: The Sage and the Self Realization
« Reply #2 on: December 05, 2009, 09:41:03 AM »
Dear nonduel,

Yes. Over the ground level thoughts can be overcome by self
enquiry.  No doubt.  But there are numerous hidden thoughts/
tendencies, which are called Vasanas, they have to be brought
out and stamped out.  These are the worse enemies, attacking
us, without warning.  For this only, Guru's Grace is essential.
Mother Azhagamma was in death bed.  Bhagavan was holding
His hands on her head and chest.  Bhagavan Ramana says later:
"....So many thoughts came as mental  pictures to her swiftly for
some minutes.  Then they all got dissolved and the breath got
merged in the Heart...."

Arunachala Siva.