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Subramanian.R

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Brahma Jnani is like a thief
« on: November 13, 2009, 04:59:47 PM »
There was an exhibition of golden images, nicely carved, of
characters in Ramayana.  There were exquisite images of Rama,
Sita, Anjaneya, Kumbakarna and Ravana.  Many people visited
the exhibition and they enjoyed it.  Some of them did namaskrams
also to Rama, Sita and Anjaneya and looked at the other two
with contempt. 

It was night time.  The lights were switched off.  A thief entered
from the backdoor of the exhibition building. He switched on a torch and saw the images.  Now, will he choose and pick up the golden
images of only Rama and Sita and Anjaneya?  He will pick up
all the images.  In fact, he would pick up Ravana first, since he
is quite heavy with ten heads.  He sees only the gold and not
the oranments. 

The Jnani is also like the thief.  He is beyond names and forms.
He always abides in the namelss formless Self.  Only ajnanis
prostrate to Rama and Sita and ignore Ravana, because they
are bound by names and forms.  He knows the gold and not the
ornaments.

Bhagavan Ramana reflects this thought in Upadesa Saram,
Verses 24 and 25. Sri Sankara says this in Atma Bodham,
Verse 8.

All the various forms exist in the imagination of the perceiver,
the substratum being the eternal and all-pervading Vishnu,
whose nature is Existence and Intelligence.  Names and forms
are like bangles and bracelets and Vishnu is like gold.

(Story from Brahmasri Nochur Venkataraman's Satsangh.)

Arunachala Siva.       

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Re: Brahma Jnani is like a thief
« Reply #1 on: November 13, 2009, 05:40:15 PM »
Dear Subramanian.R,

Is Nochur Venkataraman's Satsangh in english? If not, is there a translator? If yes, maybe, there is a possibility to record his talks?
 

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Re: Brahma Jnani is like a thief
« Reply #2 on: November 14, 2009, 11:08:50 AM »
Dear amiatall,

Brahmasri Nochur Venkataraman, speaks in English, Tamil,
Malayalam and Hindi, depending upon the place of Satsangh.
In Bangalore, he conducted Satsangh in Tamil, in Malleswaram
area, where there are a lot of Tamilians.  In Mumbai, he speaks
in Tamil or Malayalam at Chembur or Mulund.  In Haridwar,
in august company of sadhus, he speaks in Hindi.  But invariably,
he quotes a lot of Sanskrit verses.  He quotes Bhagavan Ramana's
works in Tamil and Sanskrit.  He lives in Tiruvannamalai but tours
for most part of the year.  For Bhagavan Ramana's Jayanti and
Mahadeepam and Bhagavan's Aradhana,  he makes it a point
to stay in Tiruvannamalai.

His speeches, most of them are available in CDs.  But you can
get them only when you attend his Satsangh.  Bhagavan Ramana's
Sad Darsanam alone is available in Sri Ramanasramam.  He has
spoken for about 20 hours (covering in four or five CDs) for 42
verses!

Arunachala Siva.   
 

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« Reply #3 on: November 15, 2009, 06:55:40 PM »
Unfortunately, i cannot make to India, so just wondered if there are recorded talks in english.

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Re: Brahma Jnani is like a thief
« Reply #4 on: November 16, 2009, 10:57:35 AM »
Dear amiatall,

You can take a chance by writing to Sri Ramanasramam, Tiruvannamalai, 606 603, India.  They will inform you about
availability of CDs and also let you know the cost plus courier
charges in dollars.  You kindly try.

Arunachala Siva.