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amiatall

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« on: September 28, 2009, 06:45:55 PM »
"If you don't bring forth what is inside you, what you don't bring forth will destroy you." Jesus Christ

any comments, thoughts, ideas? meanings?
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silentgreen

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« Reply #1 on: September 29, 2009, 09:17:16 AM »
Understanding it in a simple way, the meaning appears to be simple.

If you don't bring forth what is inside you, what you don't bring forth will destroy you.

If you don't bring forth the divine nature inside you, (which requires effort of introversion / devotion / self enquiry), what you don't bring forth, which is the outward tendencies of the mind towards the lower plane (which effortlessly seem to take control of our lives), will destroy you.

The warning is of the same nature which Adi Shankaracharya has given long ago:
The man who, having by some means obtained a human birth, with a male body and mastery of the Vedas to boot, is foolish enough not to exert himself for self-liberation, verily commits suicide, for he kills himself by clinging to things unreal.

A great message from a great teacher.
Victory to Jesus Christ.
(This is my understanding and there can be other interpretations also)
Homage to the Universal Being...Om Shanti ... Om Shanti ... Om Shanti ...

Subramanian.R

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« Reply #2 on: September 29, 2009, 12:10:54 PM »
Dear amiatall,

What silentgreen has written is fine.  "The substance within"
is Atma or God or Christ or Arunachala.  If this is not realized,
the mind which is also with Atma, will come out and do its
million mischieves.  The mind should be made quiescent and this
is possible only if you bring forth the Light within.  The Light,
which is the Light of the Sun is there, the little lamp called
Mind, even if it is there, will look pale and is practically not there.

Arunachala Siva.       

Chuck Cliff

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« Reply #3 on: September 30, 2009, 10:35:12 PM »
The quote comes from the "Gospel of Thomas", the 70th saying --I googled to make sure of that and ran across a sermon from 2003 given in a Vermont Congregational Church where the point was that this saying is true on a practical, daily life level (which I would expect, since if it is true on a spiritual level, in someways at least it should be true on a "wordly" level.

"...a person needs to master [six tasks] in order to age well. The first is to know yourself—to discover your true identity apart from who your parents and society suggest you should be. The last task is to come to see the truth of life beyond yourself, and to come to peace with the way the universe works, including the course of your own life and death."


There's a glory in the morning because the earth turns 'round, and a promise in the evening, when the sun goes down.

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« Reply #4 on: October 01, 2009, 03:19:53 PM »
The inside thing which will destroy you is not/can not be Self or God ; because it is not the nature of
Self or God to be destructive. There are vices like lust, anger, greed and strong desires called vasanas
which are inside and clouding the Self.These things must be expelled from your inside by meditation and prayer.
Eradication of vasanas, which is essential for spiritual progress is underscored in this statement of Jesus.

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« Reply #5 on: October 02, 2009, 01:08:19 AM »
Yes, how i understood this statement, that if you suppress what is inside you it will destroy you and indeed if one suppresses anger(and others) constantly it can hurt ones nervous system a lot.
Just wondered in how many words can the same thing be expressed.
Thanks