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Subramanian.R

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I can tell others only what I know or have experienced
« on: September 22, 2009, 05:16:28 PM »
Once an old lady working in the village came to see Bhagavan
Ramana in the Hill.  She was in great distress, all sorts of family
problems.  Bhagavan Ramana went near her and asked about her
difficulties.  The old lady tearfully explained everything.  Bhagavan
Ramana paused for a while and asked her:  "Do you get these problems, when you are deep asleep?"  The lady said: "No, Swami!" Bhagavan Ramana then said: "It is because your mind is quelled
during your sleep and no problems appear there. Why not you try to be in that state of quiscent mind,without worrying about anything?"
Whether the lady understood or not, she left Bhagavan Ramana,
thanking Him.

Kavyakanta Ganapati Muni came to Bhagavan Ramana and said:
"Bhagavan Ramana!  Why do you say all this to her?  What can she
understand?  If you had directed her to me, at least I should have
told her to chant Panchakshari mantra!"

Bhagavan Ramana said:  "Nayana!  I can tell her only what I know?  How can I say what I do not know?  Each one should say only what he knows!"

This story is a great lesson for all of us.  We can share with others, in this Forum, what we know or have experienced.  For example,
I can say about Bhagavan's life and teachings and a little bit of
other scriptures.  I cannot start here, about Vaikanasa Tantra
of Sri Vaishnavites, or dogzen meditation and Teravada buddhism and the experiences of Christian mystics like St. Paul.  Because,
I now very little of these, more from others and not on my own
or out of my experiential understanding.

If you do not know anything, better to keep quiet.  But do not
ever, ever speak about other's experiences.  I cannot foolishly
ask and question:  "What is the use of praying to a photo of a
man, who died 60 years ago and how can you get peace from
that?  At least this man has been photographed and authentic
photos are available.  For the son of god who was crucified
2009 years back, there was not even a photo. All drawings of
him are out of imagination.  But 300 billion faithful followers
are burning candle to his pictures and drawings!  The man who
had maha nirvanana about 2550 years back had no photos either.
We even do not know whether he had a tuft of hair plaited over
his head and wore a full robe or not!  But there are 50 billion
followers for him!

A little learning is a dangerous thing!

Arunachala Siva.


       

Chuck Cliff

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Re: I can tell others only what I know or have experienced
« Reply #1 on: September 22, 2009, 06:37:34 PM »
I apologize that the wording in my reply to Thomas was so terse as to be unclear, so much so that the meaning of it appears to be completely misunderstood  :P   

I have edited the reply, hopefully the meaning of it is now clear or at least closer to what I was trying to say -- in brief, my practice is quite similar to what Thomas describes.   ;D 

I also apologize if you used/wasted valuable time because of my thoughtlessness.

« Last Edit: September 22, 2009, 11:15:24 PM by Chuck Cliff »
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