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Subramanian.R

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Bhagavan Ramana's Mission
« on: September 12, 2009, 05:06:45 PM »
Many Gurus like Sri Ramakrishna and Swami Vivekananda
have spelt out their mission in the world.  But Bhagavan
Ramana did not say anything about His mission.  He invariably
hides it.

In Sri Arunachala Nava Mani Malai, Verse 8, He says:

Sivakka chinmayam thazhaikka than padam enakku thandhanan....

He gave His lotus Feet to Me, only to have the Red Sivam,
the Effulgent Siva Consciounsess spread in this world.....

Arunachala Siva.     

matthias

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Re: Bhagavan Ramana's Mission
« Reply #1 on: September 12, 2009, 07:51:04 PM »
dear subrmanian

please explain the symbolism of the color red....what correspondence it has with arunachala and siva....

thank you
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Re: Bhagavan Ramana's Mission
« Reply #2 on: September 13, 2009, 12:21:09 AM »
Whatever the mission, it seems to have grabbed hold of this poor fellow. 

Oh, I've known about the Maharishi for a decade at least, from Brunton and Osborne in particular (have read O's biography many times).  It was inspiring and all that and I even printed a picture found on the web and used it as a book marker, then -- yawn... :P

Then this Spring, unfolds a long story, common to many I suppose, so little need to tell the details.  But the upshot was a real, non-verbal understanding of the secret heart.  Of course, I just played around a bit, then went back to silly passtimes. However, the inner commitment -- and its acceptance -- can hardly be negated, will or not, I find myself (relatively gently) jerked back on course.

But enough of such musings -- indeed, I would also like to know the significance of "Red" in "Red Sivam"

Love - Being - Aware

* update:  I googled some and found some ideas that Shiva/Shakti, so to speak, interpenetrate, are white and red, the red Shakti becomes white and the white Shiva becomes red and on and on.  The gist of it all, if my feeble understanding here has any validity, is what I would call the outflowing or outpouring of what we know as the Holy Spirit in Christian religious meta-language.

Love - Being - Aware

« Last Edit: September 14, 2009, 02:44:22 PM by Chuck Cliff »
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Re: Bhagavan Ramana's Mission
« Reply #3 on: September 15, 2009, 01:23:06 PM »
Dear Chuck Cliff,

The word Red is a literal translation of the word Semmai in Tamil, which means
Pure, Great, Justice etc.,  Hence Red Sivam, is Pure Siva Consciousness,
which is an unalloyed bliss and Truth.   Apart from this, the Sanskrit and
Tamil literature speaks Siva as White, as you have correctly pointed out
and Sakti as Green, emerald green.  But her eyes are always red, which
is a mark of both grace and anger. Since Sakti is concorporate with Siva,
Siva like a white crystal reflects the redness of Sakti.

Arunachala Siva.

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Re: Bhagavan Ramana's Mission
« Reply #4 on: September 15, 2009, 02:16:28 PM »
dear subramanian

what is with arunachala, I also know that the color red is an attribut from this sacred mountain...why that?

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Re: Bhagavan Ramana's Mission
« Reply #5 on: September 15, 2009, 03:13:23 PM »
Dear matthias,

Arunachala Hill is displaying several colours like red (due to
shelf rocks which are red in colour) and green (due to vegetation).
Bhagavan Ramana has used the word Red Hill, Semmalai in
Tamil in Arunachala Pancharatnam Verse 2.  The message
is again, it is great and it removes the ignorance, darkness,
which is black in colour.  Like the dark night is swept away
be the red rising sun.  The centuries old Arunachala Mahatmyam
and Arunachala Puranam also call iit as Red Hill.

Arunachala Siva.