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Sri Sankara Vijayam - 23
« on: August 03, 2009, 01:18:01 PM »
The debate between Sankara and Mandanamisrar continued for
eighteen days.

Mandanamisrar had a good grounding on Karma marga.  So he
said:  "Karma is the most important requisite for liberation.  The
Maha-vakyas, like Aham Brahmasmi and Tattvam-asi are all
anartha-vada, that is logical fallacy used in arguements.  He quoted
from Jaimini's poorva-mimasa sutras and argued.

Sankara said: "All karmas so long as they are good and are helping
the world, they may confer you heavens. Bad karmas will push you
into hell.  But they never confer liberation. Liberation is only
possible with Jnana.  The good karmas and devotional practices
are only auxillary aids for purification of mind.  Jnana works on
destruction of the mind itself.  Atma Sakshatkaram, or realization
is possible only through Atma Vichara.  Peace is the only requirement
for that.

Padmapada, after a few days, offered to Sankara that he would
debate in lieu of him, since Mandanamisrar is quite adamant,
and he needs some tougher treatment!  Sankara said:  Do not
worry.  I have already stirred up the fire, the ambers will start
shining soon!

Mandanamisrar gave room for some anger and sulkiness.  Sankara
was quite cool.  In result, the garland of Mandanamisrar started
drying up.  Sankara's garland was fresh and fragrant as if it
was new.

Sankra continued:  All karmas are founded on the twin pillars
of doer and the receiver of karmic-benefits.  In Jnana, there
is no doership at all. Even in nishkamya karma, there are deficiencies of body.  As one gets old, the nishkamya karmas cannot be continued. Jnanam does not care about desireship and doership.
The only desire for Jnana is mumukshutvam, desire for Self
Realization.  There is no desire for body-maintenance and there is no mind to worry about the body at all!             

Mandanamisrar gave up eventually, on the 18th day.  He said:
O Poorna bala!  (the child of fullness), I prostrate to you.

Sankara said:  O the elderly father, you are my disciple, if you like
to be one.  I shall call you as Sureswarar.  Sureswarar in Sanskrit
means the Chief of gods.  Since Mandanamisrar has completed
his karmas in full, the gods were pleased and so he was called
chief of gods.

Ubhayabharati wanted to have a little drama enacted.  She is
Saraswati, she is also Kameswari, Unnamulai who snared Siva
with her lustful look and made him to give up half his body!

Ubhayabharati said:   I am half of my husband.  I am Mandanamisrar's wife.  I shall have to be defeated in debate
if you want to be a real winner.  Sankara also knew the script
of the whole play.  He agreed.

Ubhayabharati asked him about erotica!
This is the most controversial part of Sri Sankara Vijayam.  All
readings of Sankara Vijayam, from Madva Vidyaranya, down to
Sri Seshadri Iyer, mentions about this story without omission.
Bhagavan Ramana should also have been agreed to this portion
of drama, since He has translated in Tamil verses, the famous
Guru Stuti, related to this controversial portion of the biography.

There are two lines of argument:

1. A Brahma Jnani having realized the Self, knows every art
of this worldly life, including erotica, since there is nothing
unknown to the Self.  Bhagavan Ramana also says, in ULLadu
Narpadu - Anubandham, Sad Darsanam, Supplement, Verse 27.
(This is a translation from Yoga Vasishtam).

Seeming to have enthusiasm, and delight, seeming to have excitement and aversion, seeming to exercise initiative and
perseverance, and yet without attachment, play, O hero,
in the world.  Released from all bonds of attachment and with
equanimity of mind, acting outwardly in all situations in accordance
with the part you have assumed, play as you please, O hero, in
the world!

2. If one has to take the world-standards viz., a Sannyasi does
not know anything about erotica and if he knows, he is not a true
ascetic, more particularly if he had embraced ascetism directly
from brahmacharyam, youth without marriage.  So Sankara
had to play as per the world standards.

Sankara requested Ubhayabharati to give him thirty days'
time, to contemplate on the question and come back.  It was agreed to by Ubhayabharati.

Arunachala Siva.