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question about dreams from Maha Yoga publication.
« on: August 11, 2007, 10:41:46 PM »
Hello,
 
I'm curently reading a publication intituled MAHA YOGA, edition 2002.
 
p65 of this publication it is said about dreams:
"The dream world appears real while the dream lasts; if in the dream, the dreamer doubt the reality of what he sees and tries to find out the truth, he always concludes, not that he is dreaming, but that he is wide awake. In fact nature never allows any one to go on dreaming and at the same time know that he is dreaming"
 
Despite of these assertion, the FACT is that sometimes I DO CONSCIOUS DREAMS. It always happend at the beginning of a dream and it is a very real, full and happy experience. I'm also able to modify the dream, for exemple, to change the landscape. It is to be noticed that it happends when my mind is very quiet during the evening.
 
So I don't understand why the assertion is made that "the nature never allows any one to go on dreamings and at the same time know that he is dreaming" ?

Don't you think that the fact that we can be conscious of a dream is somewhere linked to the same processus that the processus to see the world (the real world") as it is realy ?

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Re: question about dreams from Maha Yoga publication.
« Reply #1 on: August 12, 2007, 09:13:27 AM »
The dream lasts as long as the body lives. but who is not dreaming? the witness of the dream while it is being dreamt. Awareness.

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Re: question about dreams from Maha Yoga publication.
« Reply #2 on: August 22, 2007, 08:34:46 AM »
Hi,

I recently noticed an article in the Discovery magazine which said to the effect that researchers have found some evidence that our normal waking state and the dreaming state share some identical properties. As to the assertion in your mentioned book I also disagree having also had some conscious awareness at the beginnings of some dreams and could direct them for a short period. Very cool! In short, I agree. It would appear that science and experience show that the normal waking state and the dream state are closer related than most of us realize.

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Re: question about dreams from Maha Yoga publication.
« Reply #3 on: August 23, 2007, 02:45:39 PM »
Everybody has, at some time or the other, consciousness about being in a dream, even the ability to slightly modify it. But that does not mean that we are conscious all the time of being in a dream. What is meant in  the text is just that. We cannot, for example decide that we want to dream and stage-manage the whole show. Having flashes of consciousness in dreams is just like having flashes of transcendental consciousness in the waking state. These go as they come, as Bhagavan has said. Only what is permanent is useful.
Yours in Bhagavan,
Sharada

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Re: question about dreams from Maha Yoga publication.
« Reply #4 on: May 28, 2008, 10:48:34 AM »
I think, during a dream, if you are conscious of dreaming and/or
are able to modify the dream, this happens in dream-consciousness
and not in wakeful-consciousness.  Recollecting the dream and
recollecting even tbat you had modified the dream, occurs in
wakeful consciousness.

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Re: question about dreams from Maha Yoga publication.
« Reply #5 on: June 27, 2008, 12:32:12 PM »
Dear srkudai,  I am not able to tell decisively.  But kindly tell me,
whether, (a) You decided to continue to sleep.  But did you
decide to continue the dream -- in the waking state or in the dream
state?  (b) Did you decide to jump down instead of climbing.  Was
this decision taken in the waking state or in the dream state?
(c) When did you know that you have met the caller's request
downhill? - in the waking state or in the dream state?

I still believe that one can decide to alter the dream, during next
time when the dream comes, but not in the same dream.

Arunachala Siva. 

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Re: question about dreams from Maha Yoga publication.
« Reply #6 on: June 27, 2008, 04:47:27 PM »
Dear srkudai, I saw the details but I am not able to say anything now.
Let me think over.  It is all Ramana-Maya.  Arunachala Siva.