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Maharshi's Gospel and Talks - 16
« on: June 21, 2009, 04:38:59 PM »
Talk No. 220 again covers the questions of Mr. B.C. Das,
Physics Lecturer:

Das:  Contemplation is possible only with control of mind
and control can be accomplished only by contemplation.
Is it not a vicious circle?

Bhagavan:  Yes.  They are inter-dependent.  They go on
side by side.  Practice and dispassion bring about the result
gradually.  Dispassion is practised to check the mind from
being projected outward.  Practice is to keep it turned inward.
There is a struggle between control and contemplation.  It is
going on constantly within.  Contemplation will in due course
be successful.

Das:  How to begin?  Your Grace is needed for it.

Bhagavan:  Grace is always there.  'Dispassion cannot be
acquired, nor realization of the Truth , nor inherence in the
Self, in the absence of Guru's Grace.'

Practice is necessary.  It is like training a rouguish bull
confined to his stall by tempting him with luscious grass
and preventing him from straying.  Then Bhagavan Ramana
read out a verse from Tiruvachakam, which is addressed
to the mind, saying:  "O humming bee [namely the mind]!
Why do you take the pains of collecting tiny specks of honey
from innumberable flowers?  There is one from whom you
can have the whole storehouse of honey by simply thinking
or seeing or speaking of Him.  Get within and hum to Him
[hrimkara]"   [ Tiru Ko Thumbi - Tiruvachakam, Verse 3.
'Thinai thanai uLLadhor.... Manikkavachagar says:  He
will dance in your Heart pouring the ananda of honey, and
your bones will simply melt!]

Das:  Should one have a form in one's mind, supplemented
with reading or chanting God's name in one's meditation?

Bhagavan: What is mental conception except it be meditation?

Das:  Should the form be supplemented by repetition of
mantras or dwelling on divine attributed?

Bhagavan:  When Japa is the predominating tendency, vocal japa become eventually mental, which is the same as meditation!

Arunachala Siva.