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Subramanian.R

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The State of Sahaja Samadhi
« on: June 14, 2009, 12:32:12 PM »
In his entry of 6th March 1946, Devaraja Mudaliar writes:

Balaram was reading a collection of Upanishads, and coming
acoss a passage dealing with Sahaja Samadhi or Sahaja
Sthiti, asked me [Devaraja Mudaliar], "Did you not say that
K.S. Ramaswami Sastri once told you that he did not believe
in the Sahaja state and that it is not mentioned in the earlier
books but is a later innovation?  I find it mentioned here
in Varaha Upanishad."  I said, "Yes, he thought so.  He
argued with me, "how can one be in two planes at the
same time?  Either he sees the Absolute and nothing else,
or sees the world and then does not see the Absolute.  And
he said that the Sahaja Sthiti is not mentioned in the earlier
books, but is found only in later works."  Balaram said: "Where
are these two planes for the Jnani?  He is only in one plane
ever and so there is no point in Sastri's argument that one
can't be in two planes at the same time.  I [Devaraja Mudaliar]
said: "How can we say that the Jnani is not in two planes?
He moves about with us like us in the world and sees the various
objects we see.  It is not as if he does not see them.  For instance, he walks along.  He sees the path, he is treading.
Suppose there is a chair or table placed across that path.  He
sees it, avoids it and goes round.  So, have we not to admit
he sees the world and the objects there, while of course he
sees the Self?"

Bhagavan thereupon said: "You say the Jnani sees the path
treads it, comes across obstacles, avoids them, etc., In whose
eyesight is all this, in the Jnani's or yours?  He continued:
"He sees only the Self and all in the Self."  Thereupon I
asked Bhagavan: "Are there not illustrations given in our
books to explain the Sahaja state clearly to us?"

Bhagavan then said:  "Why not?  There are.  For instance
you see a reflection in the mirror and the mirror.  You know
the mirror to be the Reality and the picture on it a mere
reflection.  Is it necessary to see the mirror we should cease
to see the reflection in it.  You may see the shadows, knowing
them to be such and knowing yourself to be the screen, which
is the basis for them all."

(Source: Day by Day.  As indicated above.)

Arunachala Siva.
   

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Re: The State of Sahaja Samadhi
« Reply #1 on: November 22, 2012, 04:43:27 PM »
:) Thanks for starting an original post, Subramanian sir. Hope more will follow. Very nice...

Sanjay
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Re: The State of Sahaja Samadhi
« Reply #2 on: November 22, 2012, 04:55:25 PM »
Dear sanjaya-ganesh,

It was done when I had not completed 6000 posts in 2009. From 6000th post, I have stopped. Unless Sri Bhagavan wills,
I cannot write any original post.

Let Tusnim, Ravi, yourselves, Nagaraj  write original post. I shall respond when necessary

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Re: The State of Sahaja Samadhi
« Reply #3 on: November 22, 2012, 07:13:52 PM »
Completely respect your and and through you - Bhagawan's decision.

Sanjay
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