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Subramanian.R

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Work for wordly activities for a Jnani
« on: June 09, 2009, 11:53:26 AM »
On 2nd Jan 1946, a visitor asked whether Jnanis retire
generally from active life and do not engage in any worldly
activities.

Bhagavan replied:

They may or may not.  Some, even after realizing, carry on
trade and business, or rule over a kingdom, [like Janaka].
Some retire into forest and abstain from all acts except those
absolutely necessay to keep life in the body. So, we cannot
say all Jnanis give up activity and retire from life.

Visitor further asked: I want to know if Bhagavan can give
concrete examples , like the butcher Dharmavyadha
mentioned in our books, of Jnanis now living and doing their
ordinary daily work in life.

Bhagavan did not answer. {Readers can guess the purpose
of this question from the visitor}

Visitor:  Is renunciation necessary for Self Realization.

Bhagavan:  Renunciation and realization are the same. They
are different aspects of the same state.  Giving up the non-
self is renunication.  Inhering in the Self is Jnana or Self
Realization.  One is the negative and the other the positive
aspect of the same single truth.  Bhakti, Jnana, Yoga -- are
names for Self Realization or mukti which is our real nature.

(Source: Day by Day, Devaraja Mudaliar)

Arunachala Siva.   

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Re: Work for wordly activities for a Jnani
« Reply #1 on: June 10, 2009, 08:48:46 AM »
This question and confusion about renunciation arises as generally we tend to think renunciation as giving up of material possessions. Renunciation is  only removal of the ownership feeling we have for all our thoughts and actions and possessions and has nothing to do with what happens physically outside. As Ramana says first of all our possessions including our bodies are not ours to give up or not to give up. All that as well as our thoughts and actions belong to nature and all we need to do is stop identifying ourself as the source or owner of all this. All actions happen through us and not from us.

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Re: Work for wordly activities for a Jnani
« Reply #2 on: June 10, 2009, 10:43:51 AM »
Dear mmohan,

Renunication of the mind is the true ascetism.  Saint
Tayumanavar says:  "My religion is that which renounces
the mind."

Arunachala Siva.