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Nagaraj

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Nice teaching from Bhagawan
« on: June 06, 2009, 11:56:28 PM »
D: How to know the ‘Real I’ as distinct from the ‘false I’.

M: Is there anyone who is not aware of himself? Each one knows,
but yet does not know, the Self. A strange paradox.
If the enquiry is made whether mind exists,
it will be found that mind does not exist. That is control of mind.
Otherwise, if the mind is taken to exist and one seeks to control it,
it amounts to mind controlling the mind, just like a thief turning
out to be a policeman to catch the thief, i.e., himself. Mind persists
in that way alone, but eludes itself.

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॥ शांतमात्मनि तिष्ट ॥
Remain quietly in the Self.
~ Vasishta

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Re: Nice teaching from Bhagawan
« Reply #1 on: June 08, 2009, 09:53:32 AM »
Witnessing the mind at all times to understand it's tricks is the way, but how to ensure that it is not the mind witnessing itself but it is the real "I" watching the mind? We may feel we are doing some witnessing act but realise much later to our dismay that we had been fooled all along by the mind itself.

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Re: Nice teaching from Bhagawan
« Reply #2 on: June 08, 2009, 01:03:14 PM »
Dear Mohan,

You got a right doubt, but how to ensure that it is not the mind witnessing itself but it is the real "I" watching the mind?"

Since you got this doubt, enquire if there are two I's, is there one Witnessing and one I being witnessed. Is there Seer and Seen?

Ramana has said:

First the Self sees the Self as Objects,
Then the Self sees the Self as Void
and then finally the Self sees the Self as the Self.
Only in the last there is no seeing because seeing is being.

Find out the enquirer, who is enquiring

Ramana has also said:

That which makes the enquiry is the ego.
The "I" about which the enquiry is made is also the ego.
As the result of Enquiry, the ego ceases to exist and only
the Self is found to exist.

Who am I enquiry will destroy all the thoughts and will finallly kill itself.


Ramana has said:

All doubts will cease only when the Doubter and its source have been found.
Seek for the source of the Doubter and you will find that he is Non Exist.


Ramana has also said:

Ask yourself to whom this ignorance has come and you will discover that
it never came to you and that you have always been Sat Chit Ananda.
One goes through all sorts of austerities to become what one already is.


In Nirvana Shatkam

Aham Bhojanam Naiva Bhojyam na Bhokta

I am neither the Observed nor the observation or the Observer.



Then who are you? Enquire? who can you be when you are not the Observed, Observer or the observation?

Nagaraj
« Last Edit: June 08, 2009, 01:10:13 PM by Nagaraj »
॥ शांतमात्मनि तिष्ट ॥
Remain quietly in the Self.
~ Vasishta