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Dream and Waking States experiences
« on: June 02, 2009, 11:27:47 AM »
On 19th March 1945, a visitor from Sind [Pakistan] asked:

It is said that the world is like a dream.  But there is this
difference between dream and the waking state.  In dream
I see my friends or relations and go through some experiences
with them.  When I wake up and ask those friends or relations
whom I met in the dream about the dream, they know nothing
about it.  But in the waking state what I see and hear is
corroborated by so many others.

Bhagavan Ramana replied:

You should not mix up the dream and the waking states.
Just as you seek corroboration about the waking state
experiences from those whom you see in the waking state,
you must ask for corroboration about the dream experiences
from those whom you saw in the dream state, i.e. when
you wre in the dream.  Then in the dream, those friends
and relations whom you saw in the dream wuld corroborate

The main point is, are you prepared when awake to affirm
the reality of any of your dream experiences?  Similarly, one
who has awakened into Jnana cannot affirm the reality of the
waking experience.  From his view point, the waking state
is dream."

The visitor pursued:

It is said only some are chosenm for Self Realization and those alone would get it.  It is rather discouraging.

Bhagavan Ramana further clarified:

All that is meant is, we cannot achieve Realization of Self
by our own 'buddhi' - intellect, unaided by God's grace.

(Source: Arunachala's Ramana.  Boundless Ocean of Grace.
Volume 5. Sri Ramanasramam, Tiruvannamalai.)

Arunachala Siva.