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Subramanian.R

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The Colllaborator of a Guru - 4
« on: April 15, 2009, 05:23:38 PM »
If this tradition of a collaborator has continued into modern times,
one should look it only in who, apart from being a saint, had the
particular function of starting or restoring a spiritual current in the
world and indeed it is to be seen in the association of Sri Ramakrishna
and Vivekananda.  Towards Sri Ramakrishna, Vivekananda holds the
combined position of Christ's two apostles, St. John and St. Peter.
Like St. John, he was a 'beloved disciple'. Ramakrishna was quite
open about this and never concealed his partiality.  Like St. Peter,
he was the surviving disciples and the institution which was to perpetuate Ramakrishna's influence.  [ I am here a little suprised
how Aruthur could forget Swami Brahmananda, the famous Rakhal
of Ramakrishna.)   

In thus speaking of Vivekananda, it seems necessary to discuss
the estimate on the one hand of those enthusiasts who want to
make him equal to his Master, and on the other side of those Western
critics who quote a few of his syaings out of context, in order to deny him any recognition at all.  Ramakrishna himself said that Vivekananda would complete his work but without being in a state of
Realization (that the treasure he had been shown would be locked up again and the Mother would give the key back to him, only after he had finished his life's work).

Before considering, whether Vivekananda completed Ramakrishna's work, the first question is what the work was.  Hinduism was at a very low ebb when he appeared.  Hindus were apathetic and half ashamed
of it and were inclined to fall for missionary propaganda.  The West
was ignorant of it and inclined to be contemptuous.  But a new age
of spiritual quest and understanding amoing grups and individuals
who rejected quest and understanding among groups and individuals
who rejected the modern materialism was dawning in the East and
West alike, and a re-awakened spiritual current in Hinduism was
an essential basis for this.  He did not need to talk about it.  Much,
however, still remained to be done.  It was Vivekananda with his
dynamic personality and passionate enthusiasm who restored self-
respect to Hindus in India and made Hinduism respected in the West.  It was he who thereby prepared the field in which the seeds of new
spiritual life could flourish.  So the not very surprising conclusion
is that things happened as Sri Ramakrishna predicted.

(Source: Be Still, It is the Wind that sings.  Arthur Osborne.)

Arunachala Siva.     

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Re: The Colllaborator of a Guru - 4
« Reply #1 on: April 16, 2009, 04:00:40 PM »
"Ramakrishna himself said that Vivekananda would complete his work but without being in a state of
Realization (that the treasure he had been shown would be locked up again and the Mother would give the key back to him, only after he had finished his life's work)."


what do oyu think?

viviekananda died during a meditation, most say he died because he wanted to...is this correct?

in this sense does ramakrishnas prophecy also say that vivekananda will attain realisation when he dies...and that therefor vivekananda died the way he died?

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Re: The Colllaborator of a Guru - 4
« Reply #2 on: April 16, 2009, 04:25:03 PM »
Dear matthias,

According to Arthur Osborne, (and also me), Vivekananda was not
a Jeevanmukta.  He had to do a lot of work, he visited America two
times and England once, as per the command of his Master.  At the
age of 40, he had diabetic.  He must have definitely attained Moksha
or Liberation at the time of his death.  That way, he was a Vidheha
Mukta.

Arunachala Siva.