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Bhagavan Ramana and Saint-Poet Tayumanavar - 3
« on: April 03, 2009, 12:26:18 PM »
The entry of Day by Day, dated 9th March 1946 speaks about a
conversation about death and liberation.  Someone asked Bhagavan
Ramana: Is liberation to be achieved before the dissolution of the body
or can it be had after death?  Bhagavan Ramana replied:

"Is there death for you?  For whom is death?  The body which dies,
were you aware of it, did you have it, during sleep?  The body 'was
not' when you slept.  But You existed even then.  When you awoke
you got the body and even in the waking state you exist.  You existed
both in sleep and in waking.  But the body did not exist in sleep and exists only in waking.  That which does not exist always, but exists at one time and not at another, cannot be real.  You exist always and you alone are therefore real.  Liberation is another name for you.  It is always here and now with you.  It has not to be reached or won
hereafter or somewhere.  Christ has said:  The Kingdom of God is
with in you, here and now.  You have no death."

Bhagavan Ramana then cited some lines from Karunakara Kadavul,
verse 7 of Tayumanavar.  The full translation is as under:

...those whose state of nishta (Self abidance) is permanent
will not even entertain the thought that death exists.
This is not a thing to be taught to those of little understanding.
At the mere mention of it, numerous disputations will ensue.
Are not the divine-natured Markandeya and Suka,
and the rest of the (great) sages immortals, their minds

Divine One, to whom
Indra and all the devas, Brahma and all the gods,
sages learned in the Rig Veda and other Vedas,
the countless leaders of the celestial hosts,
the nine principal Siddhas
the Sun, the Moon, and the rest of the planets,
the Gandharvas, Kinnaras and all the rest,
join their palms together in worship!

My Lord, compassion's home, who dance your dance
beyond the reach of thoughts, in Hall of Consciousness!

Markandeya and Suka are deemed to be immortals, as are all the other sages who have permanently transcended the mind.  Some of the commentators on this verse say that all the other kings who are listed after Markandeya and Suka are not immortal, and therefore have to continue to pay obeisance to forms of the divine.

(Source: Mountain Path, Aradhana, 2005. Robert Butler and others.)

Arunachala Siva.