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Subramanian.R

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Bhagavan Ramana and other gurus
« on: May 28, 2008, 11:01:45 AM »
My dear ART, You have mentioned in the ground-ruless that
members should quote only gurus who are dead for 50 years.
I am of the humble view, that exception may be made in case
of Kanchi Chandrasekara Saraswati, who lived for 101 years
and shed his body about 15 years back.  Bhagavan and he had
mutual regard for each other.  Chandrasekara has said that
Bhagavan is an avatara of Kumarila Bhatta. Gurram Venkata
Subbramaiah quotes both in his book and mentions about a
dream in which both had appeared to him.

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Re: Bhagavan Ramana and other gurus
« Reply #1 on: July 03, 2008, 12:38:23 PM »
Dear srkudai,  your one sentence observation is not quite clear to me.
Do you mean that you are not able to know about a guru, becuase he is
not in physical body?  Tiruvalluvar, a great Tamil poet of ethics has said
about 2000 years ago, in his Tirukkural, that one's greatness or worth
is known by what he has left behind.  Bhagavan has left behind Him,
a good number of small Tamil works which are quite crisp.  His talks
have been recorded for about 4 years each by Munagala Venkatramaiah,
Devaraja Mudaliar and Suri Nagamma.   There is Ramanasramam, which
you can visit.  There is Tiruvannamalai, the Hill, which attracted Him and
made Him live for 54 years in and near the Hill.  He has Himself said,
a Guru is one in whose Presence, you get  Peace.  You can read David
Godman's Power of Presence, a book on His devotees, who were blessed by Him through His Presence.  Even though He has shed His body, His
Presence is being felt by many many people, who read His books, His
biography, the records of His talks, His photographs etc.,   I am sure that
if I have understood your question correctly, these answers should help you.  Arunachala Siva.

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Re: Bhagavan Ramana and other gurus
« Reply #2 on: July 03, 2008, 05:51:30 PM »
Dear srkudai, You are absolutely correct.  One has to negate all the
dualities.  Birth-death, body-mind, happiness-sorrow, pain-pleasure,
good-bad and all that.  But one has to learn that "I am Brahman".  Because, Brahman is the only thing which has no duality, the One without
a second.  Arunachala Siva.   

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Re: Bhagavan Ramana and other gurus
« Reply #3 on: August 03, 2008, 07:49:57 PM »
If we experience self we will not impose our ideas on Gurus who are incarnations of pure conscious being.
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Re: Bhagavan Ramana and other gurus
« Reply #4 on: August 13, 2008, 04:43:54 PM »
Dear DRPVSSN Raju, yes, once a person realizes the Self,
there is not need for any Guru, because, he is merging with
the guru.  But the original letter that I posted was, regarding
Kanchi Chandrasekara, for comparing his ideas with those
of Bhagavan.  While Kanchi Chandrasekara was an epitome
of dharma, Bhagavan was an epitome of the Self, and both
had mutual regard for each other.  In fact devotees went
to both of them, to seek their doubts clarified for the purpose
of Hindu dharma and the Self-enquiry.

Arunachala Siva.