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Ganesh_b01

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Avadhuta Gita
« on: February 22, 2009, 12:00:58 PM »
Avadhuta Gita is a text of Vedanta representing extremen Advaita. It is ascribed to Dattatreya. Avadhuta means liberated soul, one who has 'passed away from' or 'shaken off' worldly attachments. Avadhuta naturally implies renunciation but yet a higher state which is neither attachment nor non attachment but beyond both.

I felt this thread would benefit the forum member immensely. I thought I'd share some selected verses whenever I get time to post here.

ekameve samam tattvam vadanti hi vipashchitah
raaga-tyaagah punah chittam ekaanekam na vidyate


Sages say that reality is one only and the same
and through renunciation of attachment,
the mind, which is one and many, ceases to exist.

Satguru Paahi Paahi





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Re: Avadhuta Gita
« Reply #1 on: February 23, 2009, 09:15:19 AM »
anaatma ruoam chan katham samadhih
atma svarupam cha katham samadhih
astiti nastiti katham samadhih
moksha svarupam yadi sarwam ekam 23


If it is of the nature of the not-Self, how can there be samadhi?
If it is of the nature of the Self, how can there be samadhi?
If it is both - 'IS' and 'IS NOT', how can there be samadhi?
If it is all one and nature of freedom, how can there be the nature of Samadhi?

As long as the seer is present to describe itself as 'Self', or describes itself 'not Self' or find itself to be both as the only IS or what is not, how can there be samadhi?

When Samadhi takes over, we can never know it, for we will not be there, there is no Seer.

Tattvamasyaadi vaakyena svaatma hi pratipaaditah
Neti Neti srutir bruyaat anrutam Pancha Boutikam 25


By the great Tattvaas such as 'That Thou Art' your own Self is affirmed,
of all that which is untrue and composed of the five elements, the Sruti says Neti-Neti - Not this not that.

Aatmanyevaatmana sarvam tvaya purnam nirantaram
dhyata dhyaanam na te chittam nirlajjam dhyaayate katham 26


As the Self is filled only by the Self alone, so is all continuously filled by you.
There is no Meditator or Meditation. Why does your mind meditate shamelessly?

Its again affirmed again here that all is only the self itself. Even all those imagined is verily the self itself. In our ignorence we strive strive and do severe austerities to attain the Self. But is the Self something to attain? how can we attain something that we itself are? what is the need to meditate? on what do we meditate? the object of meditation is also in our mind and our mind iin our self, and the problem is that we think we are meditating on some different  entity and that different entity will come and give us the knowledge of the Brahman and all? all these are imaginary make outs  of the Self itself?

The verse conveys that I am Self! why do anything afterall, you are already that, you are not going to change after meditation, or will the meditation change you in anyway. In the end I am what I am, The Self will remain the same in spite of any austerities.

Prostrations to Arunachala Siva

Ganesh_b01

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Re: Avadhuta Gita
« Reply #2 on: February 26, 2009, 08:33:19 AM »
Sivam na Janami Katham vadami?
Sivam na Janami Katham Bhajami?
Aham Sivas cet Paramaartha Tattvam
Sama Svarupam Gaganopamam ca 27


I do not know the supreme (Sivam) how shall I speak of him?
I do not know the supreme (Sivam) how shall I worship him?
If I am the Supreme One, who is the highest truth,
who is homogeneous being and like unto space,
How then shall I speak of Him and worship him?

Bhagawan Ramana always advised everyone to be quiet or to stay Mouna. what else is required of us. All the texts say that we cannot know that state of realisation as it is beyond senses of perception. Trying to know that state is an endless cycle. There is no end to it.

Since that state being not knowable through senses, how can we really worship that state or even talk of that state so as to praise or attain that state? the very entity who is making this enquiry itself is the unknowable. what can it speak of itSelf?

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Re: Avadhuta Gita
« Reply #3 on: February 26, 2009, 08:36:44 AM »
Dear Ganesh_b01,

Bhagavan Ramana has said:  Being still, Summa irutthal, is real mounam.  This is delving in Atma Swarupa.  Saint Tayumanavar
says: If one becomes That, That will tell what It is.  Athuvanal
athuvahum, athuve sollum.

Arunachala Siva.       

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Re: Avadhuta Gita
« Reply #4 on: February 26, 2009, 11:53:30 PM »
Dear Subramanian,

Beautiful verses - "Athuvanal athuvahum, athuve sollum" I would like to read the works of Saint Tayumanavar, which is the Saints main work?

no vedya vedakam idam na ca hetu tarkyam
vacaamagocaram idam na mano na buddhih
evam katham hi bhavatah kathayaami tattvam
Jnaanaamrutam samarasam gaganopamo'ham 17 (Chapter 3)

This (Self) is neither knowable nor the instrument of knowing. It is neither reason nor the one to be reasoned about. It is beyond the reach of words. It is neither mind nor intelligence. How then can I speak of this Truth to you? I am the nectar of knowledge, homogeneous Existence, like the Sky.

Prostrations to Bhagawan




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Re: Avadhuta Gita
« Reply #5 on: February 27, 2009, 10:24:22 AM »
Dear Ganesh_b01,

Tayumanavar songs are available in a single book, and is published
by Swami Chidbhavananda, of Sri Ramakrishna Tapovanam, Tiru
Paraithurai, near Tiruchirapalli.  I do not know the pincode.  You
may write to them, and it costs about Rs 75 + courier charges.

There is no English prose translation.  Meanings for difficult words
have been given in the same Tamil book.

Tayumanavar lived in 18th century in Tiruchirapalli.  He was a
great devotee of Akhilandeswari and Jambukeswara of Tiru
Anaika, the 'water' of Panchabhuta stala.  He did a lot of miracles
in his young age.  He is a Pillai, like M. Sivaprakasam Pillai of
Bhagavan, a Saivite non brahmin.  I think he was married too.

Arunachala Siva.