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Subramanian.R

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Ulladu Narpadu (Sad Darsanam) - Mangala sloka
« on: February 15, 2009, 11:14:15 AM »
There are two mangala slokas, invocation verses for Ulladu Narpadu,
Sad Darsanam.  In fact, when the work was completed, there was no invocation verses.  But Kavyakanta Ganapati Sastri suggested such invocation verses.  Hence, Bhagavan Ramana composed them.  The first one merely talks about "Ulladu", 'that which is'.  There is no mention about any personal god.

The second verse talks about Mahesa, the great God.  It would mean Siva or even Narayana for Sri Vaishanavites.  He is just great god, that is all.  Here in this second verse, Bhagavan Ramana uses the word 'marana', death.  Those who fear death should seek the protection of the god.  This word 'marana' in Tamil, is a wonderful pun.  MARANA, also when transfixed RAMANA. 

Whenever, we think of MARANA, think of RAMANA, the fear of death vanishes!

Arunachala Siva.   

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Re: Ulladu Narpadu (Sad Darsanam) - Mangala sloka
« Reply #1 on: February 15, 2009, 04:00:51 PM »
K. Laksman Sarma aka Who wrote additional 40 verses. So, one has to read 80 verses with their commentaries.
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Re: Ulladu Narpadu (Sad Darsanam) - Mangala sloka
« Reply #2 on: February 15, 2009, 04:43:26 PM »
Dear soham 3, 

It could be.  I am not sure.  Bhagavan Himself had composed another 40 verses and all of them translations from Sanskrit in Tamil verses.  While arranging them, Muruganar separated the Sanskrit verses and these came to be called as Sad Darsanam, Anubandham. Ulladu Narpadu, Anubandam.

WHO has written commentary in Sanskrit as well as in Tamil,  for all the 80 verses. This came because, he was not satisified with Kavyakanta's translation which leaned towards Sakta philosophy.  He wrote pure Ajatavada, Advaita commentary as Sankara wrote commentary for Gaudpada's Mandukya Upanishad Gaudapada Karika.  Lakshmana Sarma is also said to have modified the original Sanskrit verses of Ulladu Narpadu, several times, not having been satisified with Kavyakanta's translation in Sanskrit.  While Sarvadikari, Chinnaswami was not showing any interest in publishing WHO's commentary, it was Bhagavan Ramana who pursuaded him to take up the publication.  By that time, the book was out with WHO's own money.  Sarvadikari got them all and pasted the name of Sri Ramanasramam, on the first page!  There are also beautiful commentaries by Sri Sadhu Om, Kapali Sastri and Dr. T.M.P Mahadevan, in Tamil, Sanskrit and English.

Arunachala Siva.         

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Re: Ulladu Narpadu (Sad Darsanam) - Mangala sloka
« Reply #3 on: February 15, 2009, 06:33:56 PM »
Kapali Sastry used to consider maya as part of  ' Whole Truth '  which was "Brahman + Maya" ( according to him ). Laksman Sarma had better understanding of Advaita.
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Re: Ulladu Narpadu (Sad Darsanam) - Mangala sloka
« Reply #4 on: February 16, 2009, 10:11:37 AM »
dear soham3,

Yes.  Nayana in a way was a Saiva Siddhanti.  They consider Siva and
Sakti, Brahman and Suddha Maya are inseparable.  So, the world,
the personal god and individual soul are real.  By personal god, they mean only Siva and no other god.  Individual soul, is called Sittruyir, in Tamil, 'small soul.'  This Sittruyir after liberation enjoys four things.

1. Salokam -  Remaining in the same world, that is Kailas, of Siva.
2. Sameepam - Remaining very near to Siva, at His feet.
3. Saroopam - Having the same form as Siva, and being capable of
     everything, excepting creation.
4. Saujyam - Merging in Sivahood.

These are graded, and Sayujyam is the final thing.  However, there is no birth for them any more.     

Arunachala Siva.