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Sahaja and Nirvikalpa Samadhi
« on: January 27, 2009, 01:27:32 PM »
Mr. Cohen wanted to know the exact meaning of 'samadhi'.

Bhagavan: Samadhi is one's true nature.

Cohen: Is it the same as Turiya?

Bhagavan: Samadhi, Turiya, Nirvikalpa, all have the same implication, namely awareness of the Self.  Turiya literally
means the Fourth State, -- the Supreme Consciousness --
to be distinguished from other three -- the waking, dreaming,
and dreamless sleep. The Fourth State is eternal, ever, or in which
the other three, come and go.  In Turiya, there is the awareness
that the mind has merged in its Source, the Heart, and is quiscent
there, although some thoughts still impinge on it and the senses
are somewhat active. In Nirvikalpa, the senses inactive and thoughts are totally absent, hence the experience of Pure Consciousness is intense in it; so is the bliss. Turiya is obtainable in Savikalpa Samadhi.

Cohen: What is the difference between Sahaja and Nirvikalpa Samadhi?

Bhagavan: Sahaja is also Nirvikalpa.  You are probably meaning Kevala Nirvikalpa, which is temporary, while the samadhi lasts.
The Sahaja Nirvikalpa is permanent and in it lies liberation from

There are two Nirvikalpa, the internal and the external. In the former, the mind completely merges in the Inmost Being and is aware of nothing else. This is compared to a lamp protected from wind. But in the latter, although the mind is absorbed in the Self, the sense of the world still prevails without a reaction from within, and has the calm vastness of a waveless ocean. In both, the Self is realized in Its nakedness and the essence of Bliss experienced.
When the waveless ocean of the external and the steady flame of the internal Nirvikalpa are realized as identical, the ultimate goal, the Sahaja Nirvikalpa Samadhi is said to have been reached. Nirvikalpa is effortless, whereas the Savikalpa is attended with effort.

Cohen: Is the internal Nirvikalpa absolutely necessary before the attainement of Sahaja?

Bhagavan:  Abiding permanently in any of these samadhis, either Savikalpa or Nirvikalpa is Sahaja.  What is body consciousness? It is the insentient body plus consciousness.  Both these must lie in another consciousness which is absolute and unaffected, and ever abiding, with or without the body consciousness.  What does it then matter whether the body consciousness is lost or retained, providing one is holding one to that Pure Consciousness?  Total absence of body consciousness has the advantage of making the Samadhi more intense, although it makes no difference in the knowledge of the Supreme.

(Source: Guru Ramana. S.S. Cohen. Sri Ramanasramam. Tiruvannamalai.)

Arunachala Siva.