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How Sankara and Bhagavan Ramana tackle Maya?
« on: January 22, 2009, 11:44:32 AM »
The antagonists of Advaita argue:

With the conditioned as well as the unconditoned illusions considered, the phenomenon of the water in a mirage is purely
illusory because the water cannot be used for any purpose,
whereas the phenomenon of the world is purposeful.  How then the latter stand on par with the former?

A phenomenon cannot be a reality simply because it serves a
purpose or purposes. Take a dream for example.  The dream
creations are purposeful; they serve the dream purpose. The
dream water quenches dream-thirst.  The dream-creation, however,
is contradicted in the two other states.  What is not continuous
cannot be be real for a short time and unreal at other times.

So, it is with magical creations.  They appear real and are yet

"Similarly the universe cannot be real of itself.... that is to say,
apart from the underlying Reality." (Talks 315)

And "Maya is used to signify the manifestations of the Reality.
Thus Maya is only Reality." (Talks 20)

Bhagavan Ramana is not a philosopher. His explanations were
out of His own experience and not a result of a study of Advaita
philosophy, but the basic-event enabled Him to confirm the great intuition of the yore, like that of Sankara.  He simply said what He
saw and that is the same thing as Sankara and the ancient Sages
had seen and which everybody will see who follows His Path upto the end.  That behind the appearance of the forms is the true nature of the world as Brahman. However all their explanations and deductions cannot prove their vision, as long as he who doubts cannot see what they see.   And he cannot see it as long as both of them use different ways of perceiving. No logical... philosophical... demonstration can prove what the realized one sees.   The Self is
not only his true nature, but also of the world.  And he perceives it
as distinctly as 'fruit on the palm of his hand.'

That was the reason, why Bhagavan Ramana used to divert the
conversation as soon as it was convenient, when it had turned to
Maya.  Actually the problem, Maya, is no problem at all being no obstruction to the Path.     

(Source: Hunting the 'I'. Lucy Cornelssen. Sri Ramanasramam,

Arunachala Siva.