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Subramanian.R

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Stabilizing the state of the Self
« on: January 18, 2009, 10:07:43 AM »
Some one asked Annamalai Swami:

One can have a temporary experience of the Self, the underlying
reality, but then it goes away. Can you offer any guidance on how
to stablize in that state?

Annamalai Swami:

A lamp that is lit may blkow out if the wind is strong. If you want
to see it again, you have to relight it.  But Self is not like this. It
is not a flame that can be blown out by the passing winds of thoughts and desires. It is always bright, always shining, always
there.  If you are not aware of it, it means that you have put a curtain or a veil in front of it that blocks your view. Self does not
hide itself behind a curtain.  You are the one who puts the curtain
and then close it again, it means that you are still believing in wrong ideas.  If you have eradicated them completely, they will not reappear. While these ideas are covering up the Self, you still need
to do constant 'sadhana'.

So, going back to your question, the Self does not need to stabilize itself. It is full and complete in itself.  The mind can be stabilized or destabilized, but not the Self.

(Annamalai Swami, Final Talks. Ed. David Godman.)

Arunachala Siva.       

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Re: Stabilizing the state of the Self
« Reply #1 on: March 11, 2010, 06:48:23 PM »
Well said By Annamalai Swami garu.

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Re: Stabilizing the state of the Self
« Reply #2 on: March 12, 2010, 10:07:43 AM »
Dear grhluna,

The Western psychiatry did not go beyond dream and deep sleep
states.  Whenever a person had problem, they gave sedatives and
made him to sleep.  But Hindu philosophy went beyond these.  Bhagavan Ramana says in Sri Arunachala Ashtakam, Verse 5, only
the mind has to be rubbed constantly with mind (a paradox) so that
the mind would shirk off its dirt and dust and shine as Ruby.  This
Pure Mind state is called Turiya.  It was Gaudapada who did Karika
for Maandukya Upanishad, found out this state and described it
in verses in Gaudapada Karika.

Arunachala Siva.