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« on: January 12, 2009, 04:51:44 PM »
I.S. Mudugula, then takes up the desire.

Question 4:  What about desire?

Desire is an attribute of the mind.  It is triggered by the multiple associations we bring to each act of observation, by the senses. We never look at a person or thing objectively, that is, just as a shape or image,
instead, every shape or image arouses numerous thoughts and reflections, logical or metaphorical extensions of imagined actions involving it, and so on.  Therein lies the rub; a thing is not just a thing,
but is black or white, ugly or pretty, lovely or loathsome.  We are attached it it if it is lovely, repelled if it is ugly, even though we know that none of these attributes has any inherent existence.  They mean something only
in a functional sense, when translated into some action or consequence.

A way to bypass unwanted mental associations is to get to the basics of the issue, is the object of desire really as good (whatever 'good' means) as it looks? What is it made of? If the object is a human being, we know that the body is made of easily destructible flesh, readily subject to decay and in, in any case, disguisting when looked at closely; being a sort of
waste factory.  The only lovable trait about a body is that the spirit it houses. In other words, know the object for what it reallly is, and all desire vanishes and with it, all related attachments.  This is much easier
when inanimate objects are involved where desire is less poignant.

As Patanjal says* when sensuous thoughts begin to occur, they should
be annihilated logically thinking of he negative aspects of the object as
matter that is disguisting and subject to instant or eventual decay.
Then it doesn't look attractive.

The Mahabharata says that the bnliss of a person who has overcome desire is sixteen times that of the happiness of the gods or the pleasure
derived from carnal enjoyments.

(* Saint Arnagiri Nathar also says the same idea in many of his songs
of Tiruppugazh.
** Uanti Parva, XII. Chapter 173, Verse 47.)

(Source: Mountain Path, April-June 2008)

Arunachala Siva.


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Re: Frequently Asked Questions
« Reply #1 on: January 13, 2009, 10:18:35 AM »
Dear srkudai,

Yes, "incompleteness" is the problem.  Eric Berne calls it by the
German name, 'gestalt'.  Gestalt means Completeness, Fullness.
Man and woman want to be Whole in their life.  The Wholeness
would come for Jnanis by merging in the Self.  The nonself desires
everything, if it is the Self, it is sublime.  If it wants a woman (and
woman wants a man), if a child wants milk, if the clerk wants to
become an officer in a company, if a king wants another country
to win over, it is all "desires".  Hence incompleteness and desires
mean the same thing, as I understand.

Arunachala Siva.