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What is my Self now?
« on: January 03, 2009, 12:09:20 PM »
Daivarata (Kapali  Sastri) asked Bhagavan Ramana:

I want to know what the Heart is and where is it and so forth.
But I want to have this doubt cleared first.  I am ignorant of
my own truth, my knowledge is limited, imperfect.  You say
"I" means the Self, Atman.  But the Atman is said to be always
Self-aware, whereas I am unaware.

Bhagavan Ramana:

People always fell into this confusion.  What you call your self
now is not the real Self, which is neither born nor dies.

Daivarata: 

Then you admit that I what I call my self is the body or part of the
body.

Bhagavan Ramana:

But the body is matter, Jada. It never knows it is always the known.

Daivarata:

Then, If I am neither the Atman, the Self nor the Anatman, the
non-self.

Bhagavan Ramana:

I am coming to the rescue.  Between spirit and the matter, the Self
and the body, there is born something which is called ahamkara,
the ego-self,  jiva, the living being.  Now what you call your self is
this ego-self which is different from the ever conscious Self and from
the unconscious matter, but which at the same time partakes the
character of both the spirit and the matter, chetana and jada.

Daivarata:

Then when you say 'know thyself", you want me to know this
ego-self?

Bhagavan Ramana:

But the moments the ego-self rises to know itself, it changes its
character.  It begins to partake less and less of jada, in which it
is absorbed, and more and more of the Consciousness of the Self,
the Atman.

(Source: Sad Darsana Bhashya.  Kapali Sastri. Sri Ramanasramam.
Tiruvannamalai.)

Arunachala Siva.