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mick hutchinson

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SPACE CONQUEST ?
« on: February 21, 2007, 04:36:25 AM »
If Mankind conquers outer space we will have Star Wars.
But if he conquers Inner Space  we will have Peace on Earth

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Re: SPACE CONQUEST ?
« Reply #1 on: March 17, 2007, 03:55:03 PM »
Insights will not remove Ego Mick, rather the oposite. Your vasanas will run their course and there is nothing you can do about them. Insights can either make life easier or they can boost Ego.

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« Reply #2 on: March 18, 2007, 05:14:23 AM »
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Insight
IN SIGHT
To see inwarldy
the ego plays its games
Makes things seem good or bad
Not just vasanas but everything else will run its course
Its predestined
Does this mean no one must talk sense?

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« Reply #3 on: April 20, 2007, 01:31:43 AM »
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« Reply #4 on: April 24, 2007, 01:50:52 AM »
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Insight
IN SIGHT
To see inwarldy
the ego plays its games
Makes things seem good or bad
Not just vasanas but everything else will run its course
Its predestined
Does this mean no one must talk sense?

To talk wise or foolishly. It is all not in our hands.
Everything goes as it should go. We must just get rid of the idea that we are the doers, that we have the freedom to make any choice. This is the real freedom.   

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« Reply #5 on: May 04, 2007, 04:15:22 PM »
That's a wonderful expression Mick. My take on that is that if all of us, especially those who believe that they are 'closer to God' stay silent and gain THAT Insight (Gyan Drushti), then there will be no violence, no terrorism. But, alas, there will be, because its easier to look out than in. Again, its Bhagavan Shivji's stated rule (Niyam) that good and evil must co-exist.
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« Reply #6 on: May 07, 2007, 09:32:22 PM »
Hi Vibav
Thanks
Sure is easier to look out than in.
Ramana was/is wonderfull!!!

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« Reply #7 on: May 07, 2007, 09:58:14 PM »
Hiya Hameed.
If everything is going as it must ,if it all happens automatically ,
Then it must be so for what I am saying here.
A little poem what I wrote wiv me little brain!!
Whatever you do or say.
The world will go its way.
The original post is actually about my atitude to science and the Western idea of what intelligence is.
Until we are liberated we must make our way through the maze of the material world.
To deal with the world ,as it is, it is nescessary to have some concepts which let us cope with it ,especially in relation to other people.
I am aware that the doer is an illusion ,its just a mental mechanism within us.
Although I know that I have some efforts to make !!!
Ramana said As all the things that happen only happen to the Ego and the Ego isnt real ,then nothing ever happens!
Also I think you are incorrect when you say Ramana merged with the Absolute when he died.
He merged with the Absolute at the age of 16 and as he said there was no furher development.
Also he exists! His grace exists! He said to pray without the sense of duality .So his grace is not experienced as ,I and another.
That would be imagination as you say!!
He is my Guru. For me the greatest of all!
Peace
Mick H

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« Reply #8 on: May 07, 2007, 11:17:23 PM »
Well im new to Ramana all i can say that the abundance between Space and you is wonderfull,Yes Love, Peace, Truth is all there but try and sit there for a split second and witness your self.That in it self is a CONQUEST...Even better we search for more space but stop looking for space and let it all be,we still need to experince being ORDINARY and not EXTRA ORDINARY in the Space we have....

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« Reply #9 on: May 09, 2007, 11:58:49 AM »
Hiya Hameed.
If everything is going as it must ,if it all happens automatically ,
Then it must be so for what I am saying here.
A little poem what I wrote wiv me little brain!!
Whatever you do or say.
The world will go its way.
The original post is actually about my atitude to science and the Western idea of what intelligence is.
Until we are liberated we must make our way through the maze of the material world.
To deal with the world ,as it is, it is nescessary to have some concepts which let us cope with it ,especially in relation to other people.
I am aware that the doer is an illusion ,its just a mental mechanism within us.
Although I know that I have some efforts to make !!!
Ramana said As all the things that happen only happen to the Ego and the Ego isnt real ,then nothing ever happens!
Also I think you are incorrect when you say Ramana merged with the Absolute when he died.
He merged with the Absolute at the age of 16 and as he said there was no furher development.
Also he exists! His grace exists! He said to pray without the sense of duality .So his grace is not experienced as ,I and another.
That would be imagination as you say!!
He is my Guru. For me the greatest of all!
Peace
Mick H

Dear Mike,
What you say might be completely right.

Just about Ramana as guru. As long as there is Ego, there is interference in your receiving Bhagavan's grace. One  drop of kerosine spoils a whole bucket of fresh milk, even the purest milk in Existence!

Have a good day

Hameed

PS According to Bhagavan, "every action undertaken, every word spoken" is the result of a decision. Inquire where does this decision come from. Always the right decision is made and it is not in our hands, not even these words of mine to you. Nobody has ever made a mistake.
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« Reply #10 on: May 12, 2007, 03:05:44 PM »
Hameed
Surely if the ego  is gone then all that is left is the Self. In this state there is no ego to recieve grace ,because the Self itself is grace.
The ending of the ego is the ending if I and it .The ending of the Experiencer and the Experienced.
Samadhi is like becoming the universe , like being everywhere all at once ,but with no localised "I" that can say I am having this experience. It struck me afterwards ,that you cant really call it an experience ,because it is both experience AND experiencer!
Its just awareness that is Self Aware.
Ramanas explanations are always so concise ,so clear and to the point.He gets into a few words what most cannot get into many many books. How he explains that you cannot be aware of yourself in the same way as you are aware of an object because there would have to be two of you, seems to me to be the perfect explanation and to have a slight little taste of his humour as well!
Peace!
Mick.

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« Reply #11 on: May 23, 2007, 09:31:54 PM »
we look ahead and see choices , we look behind and see there were none .....
simply stop telling the story of the self and see who you are without it

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« Reply #12 on: May 23, 2008, 02:47:05 PM »
If I stop looking out and start looking within, I become the Self,
Ramana, all inanimate and animate beings, outer space and galaxies.
This is called Cosmic Consciousness by Vivekananda.  It is the
Bhooma Vidya, mentioned by Sanatkumara or Skanda in Chandogya
Upanishad.  I would call it Ramana Vidya.  There is nothing more to
attain.  Even a thousand Stephen Hawkings cannot find it outside and
define it or label it.  This is perhaps the "Unified  Field Theory", which
every physicist wants to postulate.