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Self-Enquiry-Daily life
« on: August 26, 2008, 11:37:23 AM »
Is daily life complimentary to self-enquiry or do you feel it is a hurdle to it?
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« Reply #1 on: August 26, 2008, 02:10:39 PM »
Dear Raju, Daily work is not a hurdle, when one does the
work constantly enquiring to the Self.  For that matter,
work can be done, even after self-realization, as Bhagavan
Ramana did during His 54 years of life in the body.  In both
the cases only 'the sense of doership' has to be avoided. One
should be like the Sun, in whose presence, the whole world
do the work, the lotuses bloom, and water in the lake dries up.  As
the Space does not mix up with the remaining four elements, one
should do the work, 'without mixing up with the sense of doership.'
(Who am I? - 1902)

Arunachala Siva.




 

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« Reply #2 on: August 26, 2008, 09:54:49 PM »
DEAR SIR,

DAILY LIFE IS A COMPLEMENTARY TO SELF ENQUIRY AND ASSISTS IN ENQUIRING MORE TO GET RID OF THE DOERSHIP THOUGHT BY DOING MORE WORK WITHOUT DOERSHIP. WORK IN SILENCE OF MIND.

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Re: Self-Enquiry-Daily life
« Reply #3 on: August 26, 2008, 10:28:53 PM »
Dear sankar,
                Very well said.Your understanding is good.
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Re: Self-Enquiry-Daily life
« Reply #4 on: November 10, 2008, 02:26:50 AM »
Is daily life different from "Life", and is life different from the Self?

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« Reply #5 on: November 10, 2008, 11:09:09 AM »
Dear Marcus,

The daily life has got a beginning and an end and is impermanent.
But Life, Eternal Life, is Eternal, beyond space and time.

The life of a living being clings to the individual soul, which is nothing
but the Self but deluded by Maya, appearances of world and personal
gods.  The individual soul identifies itself as the Self, when the play
is over, if appearances are removed by self enquiry.

Arunachala Siva. 

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« Reply #6 on: November 11, 2008, 03:30:06 PM »
Dear Srk Udai,
                  Well said.Only in the mirror of relationship in the daily life we will come to know the latent tendencies hidden in the deeper unconscious layers at the conscious level.Many feel that there is no relationship between daily life and self-enquiry.Self-Enquiry is paying attention to the source of mind but mind strays if there are unspent latent tendencies.The tendencies wll be spent only in the relationships of daily life.So we should not
run away from daily life and do self-enquiry in  secluded place cross legged.Daily life is an opportunity to further our spiritual understanding
and to get mind centred in the self.As the tendencies are spent mind develops the capacity to abide in it's source.This is real self-enquiry(Nija Vicharana).
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« Reply #7 on: November 11, 2008, 11:00:17 PM »
wonderfull discussion and so very true...


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« Reply #8 on: November 12, 2008, 01:12:04 PM »
Dear Srk Udai,
                  When one faces the life mind will have the capacity to be in a state of nondoing(Summa iru) in which it attends to it's source
without straying.Then it discovers the lie of independent existence of the ego.The more we practice self-enquiry in daily life the more
tenuous the lie becomes until it finally it looses it's hold on us.We must search for the source of the mind with such an intensity as that
of a drowning man struggling for air,only then we can succeed in finding it.This possible only when latent tendencies are spent in daily life
so that mind can fix itself in "self" and establishes in a state of "Summa iru".If latent tendencies are still there when you sit for deliberate
meditation mind strays without any control and it is difficult to bring it back again because we are lost in the network of thought.
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« Reply #9 on: November 12, 2008, 09:53:12 PM »
Wonderful discussion indeed!  It is not easy to find an answer!  From the standpoint of one struggling with mind, struggling for liberation, daily life does present hurdles.  Self-enquiry tames the mind, deflates the ego and helps one face the challenges boldly.  But instances are not few when the mind, caught in activities, is led astray.  As a commuter how often one is compelled to jostle with co-passengers!  No father can remain a witness when his son is neglecting his studies.  The list is endless.  But self-enquiry, when vigorously pursued, makes one live in harmony with others.  Daily life can be said to be a test for the state of equanimity of the mind.  Activities by themselves do not complement self-enquiry.

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« Reply #10 on: November 12, 2008, 10:28:24 PM »
Dear sirs,

Our life is like a running river which has two banks. One bank is fear ( thinking  past whether we loose our attachements) and another bank is anxieties ( thinking future to get more) Both banks are not good. Life is full of hurdles. In between we have to pick up the pearl. There "Art of self enquiry" will help. The good diver can only save us ( those realised)


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« Reply #11 on: November 13, 2008, 10:28:29 AM »
Dear Ramanaduli,

Yes the life is a river with two banks.  The water is ever flowing,
thoughts, actions, regrets, happiness etc., etc., The thoughts
about yesterday, either good or bad, and anxieties about tomorrow,
what will happen, what will happen, etc., etc., are its two banks.
Like flowing water, nothing is permanent.  Only the Grace of Guru,
which is a rock or a boat, can make us steady in life.

Arunachala Siva.