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Subramanian.R

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Great Savants of Tamil literature
« on: November 12, 2008, 09:57:11 AM »
U.V. Swaminatha Iyer, affectionately called as Grandfather of Tamil,
lived in early 19th century.  He and one Thyagaraja Mudaliar were
studying Tamil, under Meenkashi Sundaram Pillai, in Tiruchirapalli.
Swaminatha Iyer has yeomen service to Tamil, by going to various
villages and towns in South India, searching for old Tamil palmyra
leaves, collecting them, and arranging them into various books and
works.  It was he who brought various Tamil epics, devotional literature
like Tevaram, Tiruvachakam, 4000 songs of Vishnu and other such
works, brought into books in his lifetime.  But for him, a good portion
of such literature would have been lost, with palmyra leaves eaten
by white ants and consumed by fire and water. 

Thygararaja Mudaliar, M. Raghava Iyengar and others are of the
same time.  When Raghava Iyengar formed a committee under
British Raj, for bringing out 20 volume Tamil Lexicon, our Muruganar,
was a member of that committee!  He was called at that time,
K. Subrahmanya Iyer. 

Once Thaygaraja Mudaliar was on the banks of Kaveri river, drying
his tuft hair, after bath.  A student of him and came and asked:
Can you not, Sir, write a commentary on Tiruvachakam?"  Shocked,
Thyagraja Mudaliar told the student, "Me?  You better ask me to
jump into Kaveri and drown myslef.  That will be easier to do for me!
Tiruvachakam is a Raja Sarpam, the King Cobra.  Only a baby-cobra
can go near that.  Not people like me!  You are asking me to write
a commentary on Tiruvachakam!"

Tiruvachakam is such a difficult book.  What I am writing or some
authors have written in books, are mere literal meanings for the songs.  Each song has got four layers of meaning!  On bhakti marga, raja yoga marga, karma marga and Jnana marga!  Nobody has so far understood
all these layers of meaning!           

Aruanchala Siva.

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Re: Great Savants of Tamil literature
« Reply #1 on: November 14, 2008, 12:57:52 AM »
Dear Subramaniyan ji


What is the correct meaning of  "Thruvachakaththai odhar oru vachakathaiyum odhar.
I understood like this. The person who once read Thruvachakam, he never requires or likes to read any other verses.
I request you to give the explaination.

Thank you.
Ramanaduli

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Re: Great Savants of Tamil literature
« Reply #2 on: November 14, 2008, 09:28:31 AM »
Dear Ramanaduli,

You are correct.  One who has read and understood Tiruvachakam,
need not read anything else, as Tiruvachakam, contains the
quintessence of Siva Jnana or Atma Jnana.  Or alternatively, it
would also mean, if one does not read and understand Tiruvachakam,
there is no purpose being served by reading all the other books in life.

It is like saying, that if one reads Bhagavan Ramana's Who am I?,
it is like reading and understanding all His other books.

Arunachala Siva.

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Re: Great Savants of Tamil literature
« Reply #3 on: August 21, 2012, 09:46:18 PM »
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Once Thaygaraja Mudaliar was on the banks of Kaveri river, drying
his tuft hair, after bath.  A student of him and came and asked:
Can you not, Sir, write a commentary on Tiruvachakam?"  Shocked,
Thyagraja Mudaliar told the student, "Me?  You better ask me to
jump into Kaveri and drown myslef.  That will be easier to do for me!
Tiruvachakam is a Raja Sarpam, the King Cobra.  Only a baby-cobra
can go near that.  Not people like me!  You are asking me to write
a commentary on Tiruvachakam!"

Tiruvachakam is such a difficult book.  What I am writing or some
authors have written in books, are mere literal meanings for the songs.  Each song has got four layers of meaning!  On bhakti marga, raja yoga marga, karma marga and Jnana marga!  Nobody has so far understood
all these layers of meaning!       

Subramaniam Sir

It is true Thiruvachagam is a difficult text to be understood just like that .Once Velayutha Mudaliar ,a close devotee of Saint Ramalinga Swamigal ( Vallalar ) asked Vallalar to explain to him the meaning of Thiruvachagam and Vallalar told him that he is ready to do but is he ready to listen and Mudaliar told him he is ready and then Vallalar started with Sivapuranam and started with the first word "Namah Shivaya Vazhgah" and he explained the significance  of "N" in Namah Shivaya itself for more than 2 hrs and Mudaliar had to fall at his feet and accept that he is not fit to receive the meaning of Thiruvachagam . Note : Velayutha Mudaliar himself was a great Scholar at that time .
However many holy words you read, however many you speak, what good will they do you if you do not act on upon them? - Buddha

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Re: Great Savants of Tamil literature
« Reply #4 on: August 22, 2012, 02:50:14 PM »
Dear atmavichar100,

Yes. The incident quoted by you is a fact.

One gentleman has written a book Tiruvachakam and Rajayogam!  He says all songs of 'Tiruvachakam is explanation of
Raja Yoga. 

In Siva puranam, he says: kokazhi (which means Tirup perundurai) means the spinal chord! Tiruperundurai means the
Sahasrara, the great shore literally.  poovanam means the heart flower (lotus). tiru annamalai means, the vocal chord
or ajna chakra.

My head reeled!

I would better chant Tiruvachakam from bhakti point of view.

Arunachala Siva. 

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Re: Great Savants of Tamil literature
« Reply #5 on: August 22, 2012, 06:58:55 PM »
Dear sirs,

Manikkavachakar Himself told, AVAN ARULALE AVAN THAAZH VANANGI. So it is clearly understood, with his Arul only we can read, understand the meaning and explain to others.  It is His grace that we could hold the book and read it. (my self). As you say, we can chant in Bhakthi bhava only.

Ramanaduli

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Re: Great Savants of Tamil literature
« Reply #6 on: August 22, 2012, 07:52:01 PM »
Dear ramanaduli,

Yes. Sri Manikkavachagar himself has composed Tiruvachakam in bhakti bhava. But he stressed Jnana as the fruit of
high bhakti. The last composition speaks about Sivanubhavam, Sivanubhuti.  As Sri Bhagavan said Bhakti is Jnana Mata.
Bhakti begets Jnana.

Arunachala Siva.