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Guru Ramana Vachana Mala - (62)
« on: October 17, 2008, 03:49:56 PM »
270.  If one nows not the Self, but knows all things else, what
is the use?  But if he knows the Self, what else is there for him
to know?

(There is a story about Sankara.  Once scholars asked him
whether he knows cobbling the shoes.  Sankara answered
that he did not do any cobbling before hand, but he knows.
A torn pair of shoes were brought to him with needle and  thread
and a stoneslab to place the shoes on.  He sat down, kept his
legs on the stoneslab as a veteran cobbler would do, took the
needle and thread.  To fix the thread through the eye of the
needle, he rubbed the thread on his nose, like a learned cobbler!
The thread became moist and he could fix it through the eye
of the needle!  Once Swami Vivekananda was asked whether
he could shoot a floating egg shell on a moving stream.  This
happened in Thousand Island Park, in America.  He said okay,
took the gun and shot at the swiftly moving egg shell on the
stream!  The onlookers were wonderstruck.  They asked him,
whether he had learnt shooting!  He said, "No.  This is the
first time that I am handling a gun!"  Asked how he got to
know the technique, Swami replied:  "Concenatration is the
essence of all knowledge!"     

271.  Even if one knowns subtle things not easy to be known,
he does not become wise thereby, so long as he knows not
that Pure Consciousness by which he knows all that.

272. Knowledge relating to objects, which comes to him that
knows not the Self, should be understood as ignorance.  Self
Knowledge -- which is known as Liberation is alone True Knowledge.

Arunachala Siva.

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Re: Guru Ramana Vachana Mala - (62)
« Reply #1 on: October 17, 2008, 04:04:50 PM »
Dear Subramanian,
                         Ekagrata(one pointed mind) probaly is a better word instead of concentration as far as essence of knowledge is concerned.
                          This is only my personal opinion.In concentration effort is required,whereas one pointed mind is effotless.Only in this relaxed
                           state of mind knowledge is revealed as it is. 
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Re: Guru Ramana Vachana Mala - (62)
« Reply #2 on: October 17, 2008, 04:15:21 PM »
Dear Dr. Raju,

You must be correct.  In Tamil book containing the happenings
in Thousand Island Park, it is mentioned as 'manam kuvidhal'
meaning only 'focussing of the mind' or Ekakgrata as you mentioned.
The English translation (or is it English original and Tamil translation?)
gives it as 'Concentration.'

Arunachala Siva.

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Re: Guru Ramana Vachana Mala - (62)
« Reply #3 on: October 17, 2008, 11:09:10 PM »
Dear Subramaniyan ji


Like Vivekananda without any knowledge of cooking, and  medicine, Bhagavan taught some recipies to devotees who were cooking in ashram kitchen. In the same way He knows some leaves which has medicinal properties and how to use
of them. He knew how to talk to animals and birds. These all could be done only after the true self knowledge.


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Re: Guru Ramana Vachana Mala - (62)
« Reply #4 on: October 20, 2008, 01:14:01 PM »
Dear Ramanaduli,

Yes.  Bhagavan Ramana, once was suffering from non stopping
hiccups and all the available medicines were of no avail.  The
devotees could not bear the sight.  One day, one devotee, had
a dream in which Bhagavan was telling him to pluck the 'Seeni
kodi leaves' from the compound of his house and bring them duly
crushed and mixed with ginger and jaggery.  He woke up from
the dream and he and his wife looked for the leaves, which had
grown in between some cement plastering in the compound of
his house.  He made the preparation and took it to Bhagavan.
Bhagavan Ramana,  who was looking at the entrance of the Old
Hall, as if He was waiting for the receipe, took it and had it.
The hiccups stopped thereafter.  Who taught Him, this native
cure?  Excepting the Self within.

Arunachala Siva.