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Devotee: What are the marks of the Guru's Grace?

Bhagwan Sri Ramana: It is beyond words or thoughts.

Devotee: If that is so, how is it that it is said that the disciple realizes his true state by the Guru's Grace?

Bhagwan Sri Ramana: It is like the elephant which wakes up on seeing a lion in its dream. Even as the elephant wakes up at the mere sight of the lion, so too is it certain that the disciple wakes up from the sleep of ignorance into the wakefulness of true knowledge through the Guru's benevolent look of Grace.

Devotee: What is the significance of the saying that the nature of the real Guru is that of the Supreme Lord (Sarveshwara)?

Bhagwan Sri Ramana: In the case of the individual soul, which desires to attain the state of true knowledge or the state of Godhood (Ishwara) and with that object always practises devotion, the Lord who is the witness of that individual soul and identical with it, comes forth, when the individual's devotion has reached a mature stage, in human form with the help of Sat-Chit-Ananda (Existence-Consciousness-Bliss). These three natural features, and form and name which he also graciously assumes, and in the guise of blessing the disciple, absorbs him in Himself. According to this doctrine the Guru can truly be called the Lord.

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Verse  3:

தொக்காய்மன மென்னொடு சூளறு வைகலும்
நக்கானமை ஆளுடை யான்நவி லும்மிடம்
அக்கோடர வார்த்தபி ரானடிக் கன்பராய்ப்
புக்காரவர் போற்றொழி யாப்புன வாயிலே.

My mind which analyses thoughts which are crowding!
Leave taking an oath against me.
Worthy god, the place where Siva who admits us as his protege stays permanently,
cherishing with love the feet of the chief who tied cobras along with bones.
Meditate daily on Puṉavāyil where the praises of those devotees who entered into that shrine, never cease.

Arunachala Siva.
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Verse  2:

கருதி நீமனம் என்னொடு சூளறு வைகலும்
எருது மேற்கொளும் எம்பெரு மாற்கிட மாவது
மருத வானவர் வைகும் இடம்மற வேடுவர்
பொருது சாத்தொடு பூசல றாப்புன வாயிலே.

My mind!
Leave taking an oath against me.
That shrine which is the place of our Lord who rides on a bull,
is the place where Devas beginning from Indra always stay.
Meditate on Puṉavāyil where the valorous hunters loud uproar when they fight with the trading caravan never ceases.

Arunachala Siva.
Sri Robert Adams:

"ALL OF YOUR KARMAS, YOUR SAMSKARAS, YOUR SINS OF OMISSION, COMMISSION, THE SINFUL ACTS THAT YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR, NONE OF THESE THINGS CAN TOUCH YOU IF YOU CENTER YOURSELF IN THE HERE AND NOW. In other words, the Here and Now is Omnipresence. The Here and Now is All-Pervading, Omniscient, the Here and Now is Consciousness. The Here and Now is Boundless Space, Effortless, Choiceless, Pure Awareness. When you hold on to the Here and Now, when you identify with Here and Now, the past is no longer valid. There is no past, there is no future in the Here and Now. There is I Am. There is the Ultimate Reality, Ultimate Oneness, and You Are That. When you are living in the Here and Now, your karmas do not exist any longer, samskaras stop dead in their tracks, sins are abated, you are born again, so to speak. You become the new man, the new woman. You are free."
Bhagwan Sri Ramana Maharshi: The idea is put to you that if you once know the Self in which all the ideas move, not excluding the idea of yourself, of others like yourself and of the world, you can realise the truth that there is a Reality, a supreme Truth which is the Self of all the world you now see, the Self of all the selves, the one Real, which is the Paramatman, the supreme Eternal as distinguished from the Jeeva, the ego-self which is impermanent. You must not mistake the ego-self or the bodily idea for the Atman.
Bhagwan Sri Ramana: The fear of death is only after the ?I-thought? arises. Whose death do you fear? For whom is the fear? There is the identification of the Self with the body. So long as there is this, there will be fear.

Devotee: But I am not aware of my body.

Bhagwan Sri Ramana: Who says that he is not aware?

Devotee: I do not understand.

He (questioner) was then asked to say what exactly was his method of meditation.
He said: 'Aham Brahmasmi' ('I am Brahman').

Bhagwan Sri Ramana: 'I am Brahman' is only a thought. Who says it? Brahman itself does not say so. What need is there for it to say it? Nor can the real 'I' say so. For 'I' always abides as Brahman. To be saying it is only a thought. Whose thought is it? All thoughts are from the unreal 'I'. i.e., the 'I'- thought. Remain without thinking. So long as there is thought there will be fear.

Devotee: As I go on thinking of it there is forgetfulness, the brain becomes heated and I am afraid.

Bhagwann Sri Ramana : Yes, the mind is concentrated in the brain and hence you get a hot sensation there. It is because of the 'I-thought'. So long as there is thought there will be forgetfulness. There is the thought 'I am Brahman'; forgetfulness supervenes; then the 'I-thought' arises and simultaneously the fear of death also. Forgetfulness and thought are for 'I-thought' only. Hold it; it will disappear as a phantom. What remains over is the real 'I'. That is the Self. 'I am Brahman' is an aid to concentration. It keeps off other thoughts. That one thought alone persists. See whose is that thought. It will be found to be from 'I'. Wherefrom is the 'I-thought'? Probe into it. The 'I-thought' will vanish. The Supreme Self will shine forth of itself. No further effort is needed.

Dear devotees, Sri Bhagwan has thus taught that meditation on the thought 'I am Brahman' is merely an aid to concentration. Therefore, the Teaching entails that if one can meditate on an unknown thought 'I am Brahman', why not can one meditate on the sense of 'I Am' or the sense of being, which is always within direct experience of one and all here and now and the primary datum of all our experiences whatsoever, and remain as the Real 'I' which always abides as Brahman rather than thinking that I am Brahman?
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Tirup Punavayil:

Verse  1:

சித்த நீநினை யென்னொடு சூளறு வைகலும்
மத்த யானையின் ஈருரி போர்த்த மணாளன்ஊர்
பத்தர் தாம்பலர் பாடிநின் றாடும் பழம்பதி
பொத்தில் ஆந்தைகள் பாட்ட றாப்புன வாயிலே.

My mind!
Leave taking an oath against me, your ways will not be fruitful.
The place of the bridegroom who covered himself with the skin of a frenzied elephant, wet with blood, the ancient shrine where many votaries sing and dance standing.
Meditate daily on Puṉavayil where the sound of the owls which dwell in the hollows of trees never ceases.

Arunachala Siva.
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Verse  10:

முந்தி வானவர் தாந்தொ ழும்முரு
    கன்பூண்டி மாநகர்வாய்ப்
பந்த ணைவிரற் பாவை தன்னையொர்
    பாகம் வைத்தவனைச்
சிந்தை யிற்சிவ தொண்ட னூரன்
    உரைத்தன பத்துங்கொண்
டெந்தம் மடிகளை ஏத்து வார்இட
    ரொன்றுந் தாமிலரே.

In the big city of Murugaṉ Pūṇṭi, which the celestial beings worship taking precedence over others.  About Siva who placed on one half a beautiful lady who holds in her fingers a ball to play with, with the help of the ten verses which were composed by Nampi Ārūraṉ who is a votary of Siva by his devotion, those who praise our god will not have the slightest suffering.

Padigam on Tiru Murugan Punti completed.

Arunachala Siva.

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Verse 9:

சாந்த மாகவெண் ணீறு பூசிவெண்
    பற்ற லைகலனா
வேய்ந்த வெண்பிறைக் கண்ணி தன்னையொர்
    பாகம் வைத்துகந்தீர்
மோந்தை யோடு முழக்க றாமுரு
    கன்பூண்டி மாநகர்வாய்
ஏந்து பூண்முலை மங்கை தன்னொடும்
    எத்துக் கிங்கிருந் தீர்எம் பிரானீரே.

Our Lord!
Smearing the sacred white ash as sandal paste,
holding as a begging bowl a skull which has white teeth,
you rejoiced in placing on one side the chaplet of white crescent moon which you wore on your head.  In the big city of Murugaṉ Pūṇṭ,i where the sound of Montai (a kind of drum with one face) and the roar of the hunters never cease. For what purpose did you remain here with a lady who wears superior ornaments on her breasts?

Arunachala Siva.
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