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General Discussion / Re: THIS FORUM
« Last post by srkudai on February 16, 2018, 10:41:35 AM »
Dear Nishta,
          :)

I do not agree that Inquiry "steals" away the habit. When the mind is totally still one may not feel like even speaking. but then, when one starts to involve in the world, one speaks and also acts. when mind is kept still for a long time, it tends to remain motionless. thats all that happens. but spirituality is not about motionless-ness of mind ... mind is like a car ... one needs to handle the mind. when moving and when still. otherwise one is not a good driver of the car.

Somehow people have a feeling that it is some kind of "spiritually superior state" to not debate :)

if a person gets excited, agitated or unhappy in a debate ... that means such a person has some "error"/"problem", a strong vasana within ... which needs to be addressed. and a vasana cannot be addressed by keeping away from it... when i face the vasana then alone can it be addressed. for example : suppose i am afraid of darkness... by avoiding darkness i only do not allow the vasana to arise. it is only when it arises that i can address it. same way, if a debate makes one agitated, better not run away from it ... face it!

and if a debate does not agitate the person... such a one should be perfectly fine to debate / not debate !

If there were no inclination to share/discuss/debate spirituality then one would not join a forum :D especially given that it takes time to even register !!

Love!
Silence
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General topics / Re: Saiva Canons of Tiru Navukkarasar. Canons 4,5, and 6:
« Last post by Subramanian.R on February 16, 2018, 09:37:25 AM »
Tiru Nakaik Karonam:  (Nagapattinam.)

Verse  1:

வடிவுடை மாமலை மங்கைபங் காகங்கை வார்சடையாய்
கடிகமழ்சோலை சுலவு கடனாகைக் காரோணனே
பிடிமதவாரணம் பேணுந் துரகநிற் கப்பெரிய
இடிகுரல் வெள்ளெரு தேறுமி தென்னைகொ லெம்மிறையே.


Siva, who has as one half the beautiful daughter of the great mountain!  -one who arrested the speed of the Ganga in your long matted locks, Siva in Nāgaikkārōṇam on the sea-shore, surrounded by gardens that spread fragrance!  When the female elephant, male elephant having must, attractive horse remain to be used as your vehicles, our master! what is the reason for riding on a big white bull which bellows like thunder?

Arunachala Siva.
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General topics / Re: Saiva Canons of Tiru Navukkarasar. Canons 4,5, and 6:
« Last post by Subramanian.R on February 16, 2018, 09:30:05 AM »
Verse  10:


சங்கொலிப் பித்திடு மின்சிறு காலைத் தடவழலில்
குங்குலி யப்புகைக் கூட்டென்றுங் காட்டி யிருபதுதோள்
அங்குலம் வைத்தவன் செங்குரு திப்புன லோடவஞ்ஞான்
றங்குலி வைத்தா னடித்தா மரையென்னை யாண்டனவே.

Devotees!  Cause conch to be blown in the early morning, always offering the mixture of incense of Koṅkaṇi resin in the fire kept in a kind of Earthern grate, the lotus feet of Siva who fixed the big toe on that day to cause the red blood to flow like a stream when Ravanana placed Kailash, on his twenty shoulders which were as strong as a round stone, admitted me into his grace.  (Nami Nandi has been praised by Sabnandhan, also in his Tēvāram for the shrine Kōḷili.)

Padigam on Tiru Arur completed.

Arunachala Siva.
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General topics / Re: Saiva Canons of Tiru Navukkarasar. Canons 4,5, and 6:
« Last post by Subramanian.R on February 16, 2018, 09:28:24 AM »
Verse  9:

Not available.

Arunachala Siva.
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General topics / Re: Saiva Canons of Tiru Navukkarasar. Canons 4,5, and 6:
« Last post by Subramanian.R on February 16, 2018, 09:26:54 AM »
Verse  8:

Not available.

Arunachala Siva.
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General topics / Re: Saiva Canons of Tiru Navukkarasar. Canons 4,5, and 6:
« Last post by Subramanian.R on February 16, 2018, 09:25:09 AM »
Verse  7:

Not available.

Arunachala Siva.
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General topics / Re: Saiva Canons of Tiru Navukkarasar. Canons 4,5, and 6:
« Last post by Subramanian.R on February 16, 2018, 09:20:43 AM »
Verse  6:

கொடிகொள் விதானங் கவரி பறைசங்கங் கைவிளக்கோ
டிடிவில் பெருஞ்செல்வ மெய்துவ ரெய்தியு மூனமில்லா
அடிகளு மாரூ ரகத்தின ராயினு மந்தவளப்
பொடிகொண் டணிவார்க் கிருளொக்கும் நந்தி புறப்படிலே.


People will get great wealth which knows no destruction, along with small portable lamp, conch, drums, yak-tail, canopy and flags, though they get all these.
Though the flawless god too is within Arūr, if Nampi Nandi is out of Ārūr, it will be darkness to the devotees who smear beautiful white sacred ash. As if Nampi Nandi does not perform the service of lighting lamps in Tiruvārūr, it will appear dark.

Arunachala Siva.
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General topics / Re: Saiva Canons of Tiru Navukkarasar. Canons 4,5, and 6:
« Last post by Subramanian.R on February 16, 2018, 09:11:45 AM »
Verse  5:

கரும்பு பிடித்தவர் காயப்பட் டாரங்கொர் கோடலியால்
இரும்பு பிடித்தவ ரின்புறப் பட்டா ரிவர்கணிற்க
அரும்பவிழ் தண்பொழில் சூழணி யாரூ ரமர்ந்தபெம்மான்
விரும்பு மனத்தினை யாதென்று நானுன்னை வேண்டுவதே.


Manmatha who holds a bow of sugar-cane was burnt, Saṇṭeesa Nāyaṉār, who held an axe made of iron and cut his father's leg was honored by Siva.  He was made the master of devotees.  And the Lord gave him the remains of the offerings, his dress, flowers that he wore and the position of Saṇṭeēsaṉ.  When these two are standing examples of sincere devotion and want to devotion,  God who is pleased to dwell in Ārūr, which has cool gardens where buds unfold their petals.  God who desires a devout mind!  Between the two things, sugar-cane and

Arunachala Siva.
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General topics / Re: Saiva Canons of Tiru Navukkarasar. Canons 4,5, and 6:
« Last post by Subramanian.R on February 16, 2018, 09:06:22 AM »
Verse  4:

துடிக்கின்ற பாம்பரை யார்த்துத் துளங்கா மதியணிந்து
முடித்தொண்ட ராகிமுனிவர் பணிசெய்வ தேயுமன்றிப்
பொடிக்கொண்டு பூசிப் புகுந்தொண்டர் பாதம் பொறுத்த பொற்பால்
அடித்தொண்ட னந்தியென் பானுள னாரூ  ரமுதினுக்கே.

Having tied in the waist a cobra which is trembling, and having worn a unperturbed crescent moon on the head, becoming devotees who are as important as the crown.
(The first two lines indicate sages who have the same form as Siva Sārūpam in addition to sages doing service to Siva.)  With the elegance with which, he bore the feet of the devotees, who enter into Tiruvārūr, smearing themselves with the holy ash.
for the nectar in Ārūr, there is one who has the famous name of Nandi who is a slave to the feet of Siva   

Arunachala Siva.


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General topics / Re: Saiva Canons of Tiru Navukkarasar. Canons 4,5, and 6:
« Last post by Subramanian.R on February 16, 2018, 09:00:15 AM »
Verse 3:

பூம்படி மக்கலம் பொற்படி மக்கல மென்றிவற்றால்
ஆம்படி மக்கல மாகிலு மாரூ ரினிதமர்ந்தார்
தாம்படி மக்கலம் வேண்டுவ ரேற்றமிழ் மாலைகளால்
நாம்படி மக்கலஞ் செய்து தொழுதும் மடநெஞ்சமே.


My ignorant mind!  Though offerings to great person may be made of flowers and gold,  though mirror may be made of flowers and gold and substituted in the place of a mirror made of glass is another [possible] meaning.  If Siva who dwells pleased with Ārūr, desires mirror or ornament, we shall worship him making Paṭimakkalam of garlands of Tamizh verses.

Arunachala Siva.
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