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General topics / Re: Saiva Canon 8 - Saint Manikkavachagar - Tiruvachakam
« Last post by Subramanian.R on July 07, 2019, 02:18:01 PM »
Verse  9:

தாளி அறுகினர் சந்தனச் சாந்தினர்
ஆளெம்மை ஆள்வரால் அன்னே என்னும்
ஆளெம்மை ஆளும் அடிகளார் தங்கையில்
தாள மிருந்தவா றன்னே என்னும்.

O mother,
she says:
`He is hailed with thaaliaruku;
He wears the sandal-paste.
He rules us as His slaves."
 O mother,
she also says:
"In the hands of the great One are the cymbals.
How marvelous!"

Arunachala Siva.
General topics / Re: Saiva Canon 8 - Saint Manikkavachagar - Tiruvachakam
« Last post by Subramanian.R on July 07, 2019, 02:14:15 PM »
Verse  8:

தையலோர் பங்கினர் தாபத வேடத்தர்
ஐயம் புகுவரால் அன்னே என்னும்
ஐயம் புகுந்தவர் போதலும் என்னுள்ளம்
நையும்இது என்னே அன்னே என்னும்.

O mother,
she says:
"His half is His Consort.
His habit is a tapaswi's.
He goes about begging alms,"
 O mother,
she also says:
"As He goes about begging alms,
My heart melts.
What may this be?"

Arunachala Siva.
General Discussion / Re: Divine poetry and thoughts
« Last post by Beloved Abstract on July 07, 2019, 09:35:21 AM »
alll through the day i me mine i me mine i me mine.... all through the night i me mine i me mine i me mine
General Discussion / Re: Rough Notebook-Open Forum
« Last post by Beloved Abstract on July 07, 2019, 09:33:53 AM »
Sri S. S. Cohen sat near the Masters couch and read aloud the following verse from Vivekachudamani:
"The blissful sheath ( Anandamayakosha ) has its fullest play in deep sleep, whilst in the dream and waking states it has only a partial manifestation, occasioned by the experience of agreeable objects."

Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi commented:- "In sushupti (deep sleep) one enjoys a whole ocean of bliss like a king; whereas in the other two states the range of bliss is as wide as are the classes of men, from the king down to the penniless."
Mr. Cohen: Sushupti (deep sleep) is often characterised as the state of ignorance.

Bhagwan Sri Ramana: No, it is the pure State. There is full awareness in it and total ignorance in the waking state. It is said to be ajnana (ignorance) only in relation to the fals jnana (knowledge) prevalent in jagrat (waking state). Really speaking jagrat (waking state) is ajnana (ignorance) and sushupti (deep sleep) prajnana (wisdom). If sushupti (deep sleep) is not the real state where does the intense peace come from to the sleeper? It is everybody's experience that nothing in jagrat (waking state) can compare with the bliss and well-being derived from deep sleep, when the mind and the senses are absent. What does it all mean? It means that bliss comes only from inside ourselves and that it is most intense when we are free from thoughts and perceptions, which create the world and the body, that is, when we are in our pure Be-ing, which is Brahman, the Self. In other words, the Be-ing alone is bliss and the mental superimpositions are ignorance and, therefore, the cause of misery. That is why samadhi (Self-absorption) is also described as sushupti in jagrat (deep sleep in waking state), the blissful pure being which prevails in deep sleep is experienced in jagrat (in waking state), when the mind and the senses are fully alert but inactive.
Guru Ramana


Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi: "Whose Self is to be realized? Is there anyone who has no Self? Why magnify the Self as if it is something to be brought from outside? You are the Self, the Being, the ?You? itself. All you have to do is to understand this by ordinary common sense and arguments. This is called 'Vichara' (enquiry as to who you are). This is the same as "Who am I?". You practise Vichara for Self-Realization. There is no mystery in it. Where then is the question of using "Who am I?" as a mantra to be repeated consciously or unconsciously? You have to argue it, as you argue any other problem, say, when you forget your name, or when you forget which one of two particular men is your uncle. You are the Self, your misfortune now is you think It is your body, which is a mere corpse, like a motor car which has no engine to make it move.
Guru Ramana
General topics / I challenge you
« Last post by Beloved Abstract on July 07, 2019, 09:31:54 AM »
tell me me one time a belief did not obscure truth ....
General topics / Re: Saiva Canon 8 - Saint Manikkavachagar - Tiruvachakam
« Last post by Subramanian.R on July 07, 2019, 08:08:39 AM »
Verse 7:

வெள்ளைக் கலிங்கத்தர் வெண்டிரு முண்டத்தர்
பள்ளிக்குப் பாயத்தர் அன்னே என்னும்
பள்ளிக்குப் பாயத்தர் பாய்பரி மேற்கொண்டென்
உள்ளங் கவர்வரால் அன்னே என்னும்.

O mother,
she says:
"White is His clothing;
His forehead is white with the Holy Ash;
He wears a night-shirt."
O mother,
she also says :
"The One in night-shirt who rides a galloping charger is the stealer of my heart.

Arunachala Siva.
General topics / Re: Quotes of Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj
« Last post by atmavichar100 on July 06, 2019, 09:41:06 PM »
Devotee: Does knowing myself imply knowing God?
Bhagwan Sri Ramana Maharshi: Yes, God is within you.
Devotee: Then, what stands in the way of my knowing myself or God?
Bhagwan Sri Ramana: Your wandering mind and perverted ways.
Devotee: I am a weak creature. But why does not the superior power of the Lord within remove the obstacles?
Bhagwan Sri Ramana: Yes, He will, if you have the aspiration.
Devotee: Why should He not create the aspiration in me?
Bhagwan Sri Ramana: Then surrender yourself.
Devotee: If I surrender myself, is no prayer to God necessary?
Bhagwan Sri Ramana: Surrender itself is a mighty prayer.
Devotee: But is it not necessary to understand His nature before one surrenders oneself?
Bhagwan Sri Ramana: If you believe that God will do for you all the things you want Him to do, then surrender yourself to Him. Otherwise let God alone and know yourself.
Devotee: Has God or the Guru any solicitude for me?
Bhagwan Sri Ramana: If you seek either--they are not really two but one and identical--rest assured that they are seeking you with a solicitude greater than you can ever imagine.
Devotee: Jesus gave the parable of the lost coin, wherein the woman searches for it till it is found.
Bhagwan Sri Ramana: Yes, that aptly represents the truth that God or the Guru is always in search of the earnest seeker. Were the coin a dud piece, the woman would not have made that long search. Do you see what it means? The seeker must qualify himself through devotion etc.
Devotee: But one may not be quite sure of God's Grace.
Bhagwan Sri Ramana: If the unripe mind does not feel His Grace, it does not mean that God?s Grace is absent, for it would imply that God is at times not gracious, that is, ceases to be God.
Devotee: Is that the same as the saying of Christ, "According to thy faith be it done unto thee".
Bhagwan Sri Ramana: Quite so.
Devotee: The Upanishads say, I am told, that he alone knows the Atman (Self) whom the Atman (Self) chooses. Why should the Atman choose at all? If it chooses, why some particular person?
Bhagwan Sri Ramana: When the sun rises, some buds alone blossom, not all. Do you blame the sun for that? Nor can the bud blossom of itself, it requires the sunlight to do it.
Devotee: May we not say that the help of the Atman (Self) is needed because it is the Atman (Self) that drew over itself the veil of maya (Illusion)?
Bhagwan Sri Ramana: You may say so.
Devotee: If the Atman (Self) has drawn the veil over itself, should it not itself remove the veil?
Bhagwan Sri Ramana: It will do so. See for whom is the veil.
Devotee: Why should I? Let the Atman (Self) itself remove the veil!
Bhagwan Sri Ramana: If the Atman (Self) talks about the veil, then the Atman (Self) itself will remove it.
Source: Maharshi's Gospel
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