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"Your duty is to surrender and then just be.
Whether you fulfill it or not is not your concern."

(Bhagavan to Devaraja Mudaliar; Human Gospel)

General Discussion / Re: The Significance of Ekadasi
« on: August 31, 2013, 06:53:01 PM »
We often come across responses of Bhagavan that are close to the effect of giving out the real essence of any spiritual practice such as these:

Bhagavan replied:"All these things are only to control the senses.In afasting person, the senses will be more subdued and will not go out, and the mind will be non vacillating.But best thing is to control the mind.Where is the mind? Where is the body?Where is the Jiva? It is all in the Self.Food alone does not make up one's determinations, thoughts.The very "fasting"of determinations, doubts and thoughtsalone would control the mind. Even otherwise we are the Self.All these ideas, are only to be in the Self.If the Self is understood,all food controls are unnecessary."

He also said that Sat Sangh is more sublime than the poojas,sacrifices, abulations and pooja, bhajans, nama chantings, which are only secondary in nature.

But, the reader has to be very careful, should he ought-right reject all such practices that he had been following meticulously so long, seeing their mere effects, thinking that Self Enquiry alone is enough, would be a great error!

One has to see through the real essence and yet continue with same fervor, then it would be truly Nishkamya Karma thereafter.

A Sage once said, comparing the western devotees and native indian devotees as follows: without Foundation it would be futile to build huge building, and it would be absolutely futile to build huge buildings without a foundation. Native Indians are already blessed with foundation by virtue, but we are simply content with it, and the western devotees, however sincere merely focus in building huge buildings without any foundation. Such would be plilght.

We need to see this through very carefully and with greatest prudence.


General Discussion / Re: The Significance of Ekadasi
« on: August 31, 2013, 06:45:12 PM »
in my view,

Bhagavan did not give out any specific view on any subject. However this does not mean, he was for or against some of these spiritual practices. We need to understand that Bhagavan was verily a plain mirror. To each, he was different. To one who practiced such spiritual practices laid down by our shastras Bhagavan encouraged and to those who were already unfamiliar with these samskaras, he let them be, he encouraged them not to worry that they do not know such samskaras, rather helped them to focus on the essential.

We have to see through this carefully. It would be a mistake to interpret Bhagavan's view on any subject. Basically, Bhagavan is Veda Swarupa. He is the Shastra Himself.

Therefore one who is already born in such an environment and family circumstances that follow these spiritual practices with fervor, ought not to confuse themselves with radical views that seem to emanate from general talks of Bhagavan to various devotees.

One has to take resort to ones Swadharma. Such doubts ought not to be encouraged to even come out. If one is born in a circumstance that he has to perform Sadhya worship, he ought to do it, no matter what he may see through.

What can be told of about the efficacy of Ekadasi Vrata! It is most excellent practice, we can see the wonderful story of Ambarisha in Srimad Bhagavatam, whose Vrata took him to the highesy abode of Self.


General Discussion / Re: Rough Notebook-Open Forum
« on: August 31, 2013, 06:23:57 PM »
Sri Ravi,

Human Gospel shared by Sri Ganesan is verily like what Sai Sat Charitra is for Shridi Sai Baba devotees. daily reading of this book is an excellent arghya - Atma-Arghyam


NRK said, I prostrated before him and asked, Bhagavan, I am doing Rama mantra japa; I chant Rama, Rama, Rama. Is chanting Arunachala Siva, Arunachala Siva, Arunachala Siva superior to that? ‘No! No! No! said Bhagavan intensely. ―Both are the same. Ra means that which is‘ and ma means you.‘ In Arunachala, A means that,‘ Ru means you and na means are.‘ Thus, both mean That thou art‘ you are that.‘ Bhagavan then added, Using your mind as the mouth, let the name Rama revolve continuously like Lord Vishnu‘s chakra (like a weapon). No other person needs to know that you are doing japa.

(Human Gospel)


Be like the tiniest chip of wood that is thrown into
an inundating and profuse flood.

(Human Gospel)


If one truly has been initiated into Self Enquiry by the grace of Bhagavan, such a person will make Self Enquiry of everything. Give him Japa, he will end up doing Self Enquiry, give him Bhajana, he will sing into Self Enquiry, give him work, he will do Self Enquiry out of it.

Take for instance, Bhagavan's instructions to Ganapati Muni:

"If one watches where the notion of 'I' springs, the mind will be absorbed into that. That is tapas. If a mantra is repeated and attention is directed to the source where the mantra sound is produced, the mind will be absorbed into that. That is tapas."

The subtle point, aspirants miss is that, the focus should be natural, it should be inspired, then only will it be graceful, otherwise no matter how much an aspirant strives and tries to remain focused in only one school of practice, since it is only inspired out of mind's intelligence, it may fail to sustain itself.

An aspirants deep yearning may lay in Nama Smarana, yet if he strives to inspire himself out of his mind to remain focused in Bhagavan's path, then it may not be divinely inspired. For instance, we may look into the journey of Narasimha Swami who finally found solace in Bhajana Nama smarana under the feel of Shirdi Sai Baba, inspite of being the first to gather the life journey of Bhagavan and compiled the first most authentic biography of Bhagavan.

In essence, what i would like to convey is that an aspirant must not travel the spiritual journey in pre-decided ideas and notions of what sounds and looks ideal, but must be like a dry leaf being pulled to various quarters in the direction of the wind. This is divinely inspired.

A spiritual aspirant must first drop his intelligence and then enter into the gates of divinity.



Just as the prey which has fallen into the jaws of a tiger has no escape,
so those who have come within the ambit of the Guru's gracious look
will be saved by the Guru and will not get lost; yet, each one should by
his own effort pursue the path shown by God or Guru and gain release.

General Discussion / Re: The Gospel of Strength
« on: August 31, 2013, 04:49:49 PM »
We ourselves are still students, i myself am!!


General Discussion / Re: The Gospel of Strength
« on: August 31, 2013, 04:48:36 PM »
Dear Sri Jewel, Sri Ravi,

i feel, Swami Vivekananda talks be an ideal subject for high school students. Whether one excels academically or not, Swami woulds the person in the right path!


There was an aristocratic lady from America who sent a telegram stating that she was coming to India just to be with Bhagavan. She also said that she was reaching Mumbai by ship on a particular date, and then taking the train to Chennai. She had also written that she would be taking a special train (which was available in those days) and coming to Arunachala on a particular date. She sent another telegram from Mumbai confirming her program. She sent another telegram from Chennai. She was disappointed that there was no one to receive her at the station when she arrived. Once again at the entrance of Ramanashram there was no one to receive her. She came into the hall on her own. Bhagavan was reading the newspaper and she couldn‘t even see his face. Chadwick and Munagala Venkataramaiya had been asked to look after her since she was coming from such a great distance and was making a special trip. She was fuming at the treatment that she received.

She said, I am a lady. What have I done wrong? I have taken all the correct steps and come here. Nobody gives me any respect here, and this Ramana Maharshi doesn‘t even look at me.‘ She was terribly angry. She told the two devotees, Come to my salon at four o‘clock. I want to talk to you.‘ She left the ashram abruptly. When they went to her place, she demanded, Who is this Ramana Maharshi? He does not even have common courtesy. What did I do wrong? I did everything perfectly but he does not know how to respect or even receive a lady.‘ They said, Do not talk ill about our master. We will go and report everything to him.‘ She said, That is the reason why I am saying it. Go and tell him. Let him learn something.‘ The two, with great feeling, reported the incident to Bhagavan. Bhagavan listened with great interest and coaxed them to tell all the details by asking questions like, Then what did she say?‘ He seemed very curious to have a detailed account. Finally he assumed his usual poise and said, Did she say all this? Then it will work itself out.‘ That night, at Chennai, the lady had a dream. In the dream, Bhagavan said, Come back.‘ The next day she returned, but this time unannounced. From 8:00 onwards, Bhagavan‘s eyes were at the entrance to the hall. She came at 10:00 and Bhagavan showered her with his smile. She became such a beautiful devotee of Bhagavan! We can never judge a master or how he will act. From his action, you cannot decide anything.


(Human Gospel)

General Discussion / Re: Teachings of Sri Ramakrishna
« on: August 31, 2013, 11:01:44 AM »

"You practised so many austerities, but people expect to
realize God in a moment! Can a man build a wall
simply by moving his finger around his home?"

General Discussion / Re: The Gospel of Strength
« on: August 31, 2013, 10:50:28 AM »
The older I grow,
the more everything seems to me
to lie in manliness.
This is my new gospel.

                                                                      Men should be taught to be
                                                                      practical, physically strong.

Is Bhagavan just the form? is there any different between forms?

To remain focused is right, to remain focused on Bhagavan is also right, but, if we truly remain focused on Bhagavan, then the forms will not matter. No matter how many varieties of dishes are served in our plate, it is food in the end. What is more important is to remain focused on the "Guru Tatva"

A person may be going to Ganesha Temple, then Shirdi Sai Baba, then go to Ramana Bhagavan and then may go to Ramakrishna math, for a person of wisdom, where ever he goes, the same Guru, to whom he has surrendered will appear in various forms.

What is required is Antarmukham of chitta. Internalization of all senses and mind.

We should never forget, that all paths lead to the same goal, further one will discern that there is only one path, and existence of many paths are only illusion. there is only one way upwards in a hill, no matter which ever side one may climb, there is only one way - upwards!


General Discussion / Re: The Gospel of Strength
« on: August 30, 2013, 11:51:36 AM »
“I want iron wills and hearts that
do not know how to quake”.

                                “You may meditate on whatever you like,
                                but I shall meditate on the heart of a lion.
                                That gives strength”.

                                “Give me a few men and women
                                who are pure and selfless and
                                I shall shake the world”.

- These are the words of the thundering monk
Swami Vivekananda.

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