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I  WISH  TO  ADD  THAT  IF  ONE  WANTS  TO  CONTINUE  THOSE  SECONDARY  PRACTICES  MAY  DO  SO,  BUT  SRI  BHAGWAN  HAS  TAUGHT  CRYSTAL-CLEAR  THAT  FOR  THOSE  WHO  CAN  PRACTICE  THIS  METHOD  ALL  RULES  AND  DISCIPLINE  ARE  UNNECESSARY. One should not superimpose one’s own view, for Sri Bhagwan’s Utterance is so obvious. I dare not try to contradict Sri Bhagwan’s Teaching.

Dear Sri Anil Ji,

i wish to clear myself that i am in no way contradicting Bhagavan. I just lay stress on the underlined aspect of Bhagavan's quote:

FOR  THOSE  WHO  CAN  PRACTICE  THIS  METHOD  ALL  RULES  AND  DISCIPLINE  ARE  UNNECESSARY

only oneself is best judge. i was in no way super imposing, but simply realise that it would be really daring to be a claimant for this. Thanks so much.

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I do not feel separated from Sri Bhagwan. He is the Self. How can I? His Presence is everywhere and for all time.

Well, am just happy for you! :)

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General Discussion / Re: my musings
« on: September 02, 2013, 05:12:51 PM »
Stray thoughts...

it appears in general, Bhagavan is being made as a Buddha of our times. To what Buddha stood, his views on rituals, worship, etc... but in the end, they ended up being better ritualists! They have crafted their own scriptures all borrowed from Vedas and Upanishads.

The Roots of Vedas can never be broken, no matter how Buddha may be misunderstood no matter how Bhagavan Ramana or Ramakrishnar may be mi understood. This foundation is a must and can never be discarded!

The Apourusheya Vedas which revealed the Truth of Brahman, also revealed the auxiliary practices necessary. The Veda can never be wrong or wronged.

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Other auxiliary practices are not different from Self Enquiry.

Superior to doing Self Enquiry with hands that work on worldly plane
would be the hands that engage in worship of God.

Superior to doing Self Enquiry with mouth that converses with persons
would be the mouth that engages in prayers.

Superior to doing Self Enquiry with eyes that see externally
would be the eyes that looks within.

Superios to doing Self Enquiry in a busy place and in midst of noises and commotion
would be to doing self enquiry in silent and serene place

Superios to doing Self Enquiry with filled stomach with various healthy and unhealthy foods
would be to doing self enquiry with empty (after digestion) stomach

Superior to doing self enquiry with internet and books
would be to doing self enquiry all alone by ourselves

and so on.. the list can continue based on our experiences

and if we see closely, the close devotees who lived with Bhagavan seldom asked any questions at all. All the questions that were asked to Bhagavan are the visiting people who come and go.

If one has the luxury of a companionship with Sage such as Bhagavan, then one need not really worry about any rules etc... but we who are in midst of worldly affairs, it does not personally appeal well to my heart to ignore the external niyamas. They are necessary for me at least.

thanks so much for the opportunity,

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Dear Sri Anil Ji,

i respond, just to bring to front just the following views -

i am unable to simply resonate with the very question posted by the questioner as follows -


Q: Many people find self-enquiry very difficult. Even most of Bhagwan’s devotees seem to follow a bhakti path. If one cannot do enquiry successfully, should one first purify the mind with japa?


Leaving aside the response by Sri Annamalai Swami as they respond keeping the questioner's temperament.

Are we still to differentiate between Jnana path and Bhakti paths? without Bhakti there is no Jnana path and without Jnana there is no Bhakti path. The very question is on a shaky ground and the response to such a question, i personally believe cannot be considered as a general

The following response of Bhagavan cannot be treated as generalisation and these responses i believe are again made keeping in mind the temperament of the questioner.


Regulation of life, such as getting up at a fixed hour, bathing, doing manana, japa, etc., observing ritual,  ALL  THIS  FOR  PEOPLE  WHO  DO  NOT  FEEL  DRAWN  TO  SELF-ENQUIRY  OR  ARE  NOT  CAPABLE  OF  IT.  BUT  FOR  THOSE  WHO  CAN  PRACTICE  THIS  METHOD   ALL  RULES  AND   DISCIPLINE   ARE   UNNECESSARY.

These quotes do not send a good message across at all. We ourselves can see how Bhagavan's routine was, he used to get up as early at 2:30 and so on. Another instance he asked Muruganar to stop all rituals at the same he asked another devotee to continue the same. But we cannot use such examples as a generalisation.

The same cane be said about just any other method. Take for instance the Sri Vidya Upasana, it says, only in ones last birth will one come into the folds of this Upasana and unless one has already finished all other preliminary exercices in ones past life one cannot come into the folds of Sri Vidya, the most esoteric and secret it says. The same holds good for Bhajana nama smarana etc... Lord Krishna has told in Srimad Bhagavata the only easiest path in Kali yuga to be the nama smarana and to be superior to all other methods. Any thing, any method if you take, you will see it claim that this is the best method, and that it is superior to every other method. I am unable to resonate with the quotes of responses of Bhagavan to various devotees based on their temperaments to be common to every reader.

i am merely expressing for expression sake and not for rights or wrongs and may not have any further views on this subject.

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General topics / Re: Sangeetha Dhyana
« on: September 02, 2013, 04:13:04 PM »
Govinda Bolo Gopala Bolo
Ram Ram Bolo Hara Naam Bolo
Allah Malik Isa Nanak
Zorashtra Mahavir Buddha Naam Bolo (Govinda ...)
Ye Naam Saarey Hain Jeevan Saharey
Paramaanandhkey Kholte Hain Dvarey
Jo Naam Chaaho Vo Naam Bolo
Prem Sey Bolo Bhav Sey Bolo

CHANT THE NAMES OF THE LORD - GOVINDA! GOPALA!
CHANT THE NAME OF LORD RAM! CHANT THE NAME OF LORD HARI!
SING THE NAMES OF ALLAH, SAI, ISHA(JESUS) AND GURU NANAK!
CHANT THE NAMES OF ZORASHTRA, MAHAVIRA AND THE BUDDHA!
THESE NAMES OF THE LORD ARE TRULY LIFE'S SUPPORT!
THEY OPEN THE DOORS TO EXPERIENCE THE DIVINE!
SING THE NAME OF THE LORD THAT APPEALS TO YOU THE MOST!
SING IT WITH LOVE! SING IT WITH DEVOTION!

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877
General Discussion / Re: Shirdi Sai Baba Teachings & Assurances
« on: September 02, 2013, 04:02:20 PM »


Baba's kafni

878


 
Two or three years back a devotee who could freely approach Bhagavan came and told him five or six times that somebody had been abusing him. Bhagavan listened but said nothing. As there was no response from Bhagavan in spite of repeated and varied complaints and in a number of ways, this devotee could not contain himself any longer and so said, “When I am abused so much unnecessarily, I also get  angry. However much I try to restrain my anger I am not able to do so. What shall I do?” Bhagavan laughingly said, “What should you do? You too join him and abuse yourself; then it will be all right.” All laughed.

One who abuses/ insults does us a favour far greater than our mother, in a certain aspect. The mother merely tidies us up physically whereas the one who abuses us cleanses our sins too! 

Those who abuse us should be looked upon as our friends. It is good for us to be among such people. If you are among people who praise you, you get deceived.

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General Discussion / Re: my musings
« on: September 02, 2013, 11:50:07 AM »
Stray thoughts...

Advaita (Non-Duality) doesn't even admit itself!

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880
Humour / Re: Funny pictures,quotes,videos...
« on: September 02, 2013, 11:47:02 AM »

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General Discussion / Re: my musings
« on: September 02, 2013, 11:32:49 AM »
Stray thoughts...

the ego-mind, first secures itself with ropes (its requirements) and ties itself into a strong pole or a tree and then jumps of the cliff in the name of surrender.

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General Discussion / Re: The Significance of Ekadasi
« on: September 02, 2013, 11:25:42 AM »
Friends, instead of being a slave to our stomachs and livelihood, and loved ones, we may rather fast and focus on our sadhana.

If we say, such things are not essential, then we must be also be able to say even working is not essential, ideally we certainly may have enough to feed ourselves and our family till our death. But we will work because we will get retirement benefits and so on, pension, and so on... it wants to be financially comfortable and then renounce mentally!

not personally targeting just simply reflecting, how the subtle ego strives to continue! IT is willing to continue with its routine as it is convenient as it is used to its routine. If some change is thrust upon it, we get to see its real swarupa, of "iyoooo" why all these kind of feelings, and it tries to convince us by saying, all these are not required for Jnana, and fool us.

i am not being haphazard here, i am not saying no money is required, simply renounce and so on, like how we recognise the importance of earning our lively hood and so on, and for whcih we are working, in the same way, we need to keep check the ego! And if one says all these are not essential, then the Self shall reveal itself accordingly, as to where it really stands!

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General Discussion / Re: my musings
« on: September 02, 2013, 11:18:35 AM »
Stray thoughts...

To be a servant is actually loss of ego, as the servant has no will of his own, he is under the control of his master, he has no self will of his own, he cannot act on his own, he is to move only at the will of his Master. Infact, perfect Dvaita is pure Advaita, much purer, and ironically!

If you are a True Servant, then where are you? Are you?

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General Discussion / Re: my musings
« on: September 02, 2013, 11:15:07 AM »
Stray thoughts...

Saints are neither Advaiti nor Dvaiti or Visishtadvaiti or just any such nonsenses!

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To feed on you I came, O Arunachala, but I have
become your food and am now at peace.

(AAMM 28)

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